Re: The War On HLA
From: The Half A Wannabee (ShakainZulu_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/31/03
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:29:20 +0100
> P.S. You'll forgive me for not continuing this thread beyond this post.
But as I am obviously boring you, plus the fact that
> you're headed down the dangerous path of Betov/Engineering, there really
isn't much more to say about this topic. I encourage
> you to pick up a decent book on software engineering as well as
programming
> language design and check out this stuff for yourself sometime.
Okey. It was beginning to get too heavy wasnt it ? You make some valid and
good points. Wouldnt have expected otherwise, in the back of my mind there
was a whisper to try to sometimes keep in mind the monster professor I was
"up against". But thought it would be educational, to make mistakes is good,
its the only way to learn, espesially for me. And sometimes you do not make
such good points. You dont know as much about Delphi as you preach. For one,
who no longer find any use for the bundled VCL, I strip it down, take away
everything but the SysUtils and System Unit. thats because the code in those
units, are well good and tedious utilitycode that solves a lot of troubles.
If time wore available though I would not use it. I dont think at all that
Delphi is the be all or the ultimate language, I know to few languages to
begin make a claim like that. And I never did. You are the one who claims to
know them "all". I only think its unfair to mention Delphi in the same
sentence as Visual basic, cause last time I looked, Visual Basic was a
completely different language. Allthough on the surface they may seem like
the same kind of toys.
I also understand now, how macros could help out. But what I dont understand
is that a language able to do procedures and funtions, using pascal
structures for datadeclarations which makes the basm code easier to read and
write, and supports all known intel/AMD memomnics and even support pasting
new ones, cant be used to just develop such a macro system in the first
place ? In my few years in pascal I have been looking in vain for a
macrosystem in there, and felt a litle dissapointed that I couldnt find it
(but it was just ego), it never ever held me back in completing my next
challenge. I still use version 3.0. Its 32 bit and I only use v7 because of
need to get control of DirectShow 8. (Yes I could use v4 for that, but I
jumped). Took me about an hour to disable all components and packages and
the new .net warnings and hints, and then it compiled all of my code in less
then 2 seconds. 100K= lines of hll code.
To keep shouting look at HLA, look at PDF each time you need to make a point
is perhaps fair. Since you allready may have stated what you mean about such
and such in there. On the other hand it seems also unfair to take on a
dialog and turn in into a 1000 pages monologue just cause its more
convinient to you. Everybody who read this NG allready know about webster
and so why do you need to engage in a debate at all. Seems to me you fishing
for HLA devoties. I dont mind that, at all. But why not put out some of the
good stuff into the discussion as well. Cut and paste the appropriate part.
So its easier to find it. I know how hard it is to learn bits of ONE
language, and here you come running like a litle puppy, claiming you know
many of them and that your solution, which you dont even have time to finish
(2.0), beat them all to it. No Obi Wan (in respect after all), I think that
you fallen prey to the proffessor in you. You think of programming concepts.
You give them cute /vulgarous names and than you create a diploma. But a
diploma is not needed to finish a running program. In my own country millons
of dollars in tax payers money have been wasted on stranded projects, borned
by people with a diploma. In programming theres is only one thing that
counts and that is actuall experience with huge projects. And then a few of
them. One is not enough. I guess 3 or 4 large projects would make a very
good start.
No, lets end this then since you are so busy. There are still a lot in you
last reply that I would like to explore, but this isnt the right forum
perhaps. But one last note : It would be wrong to assume that I am sitting
here trying to look down on anyone. A few lols here and there shouldnt make
you think that I actually am irl laughing at you. Cause it just aint so. I
need not repeat the respect I have for all the work you have done. Arent you
making it theese days? TV and books ? Then you can take it cant you ? And I
have no problems with you when you tell me I am simply wrong. Its absolutely
no problem for me to pick up the good stuff from someone like you, on the
contrary, its an honor.
So long Obi wan. Its an honorous name isnt it not, really ?
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