Re: A Parable of Two Carpenters

From: The Half A Wannabee (ShakainZulu_AT_Ozzy_DMX_ODB_&_C_NowWhereToRun_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 11/23/03 

Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:32:10 +0100

"Randall Hyde" <randyhyde@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xmwvb.10027$n56.3155@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> This is a tale of two carpenters.

You mean the fairytale right ? LOL

> One walked the Earth 2,000 years ago,
> One mocks others' work today.
>

Nahh. And RantAll. You never do this ? DUH.

> The first carpenter was born of a virgin,

LOL Thats impossible RantAll.

> People who know the second carpenter wish
> his mom had remained a virgin.

Thats is just cruel. And like most of the things you
say theese days, just not true.

> The first carpenter said "I am the truth,
> the way, the life."

And now his dead ! Poor bagger.

The second carpenter
> calls other people "swindlers" because
> they don't do things his way and he wishes
> them a happy death.

His talking about brain-death RantAll. A happy
brain death in HLA

> The first carpenter assembled huge crowds
> to listen to him preach. The second carpenter
> uses his assembler to scare away huge crowds.

IMO. People who like to crowd up, usually has no buisness
in programming. Its a very lonely occupation sometimes.

> The first carpenter, by his grace, gives
> away eternal life, and doesn't place any
> restrictions, like the GPL, on that gift.

I can see you've been reading the bible a lot. LOL.
So you really belive HLA will have eternal life ?
So how do you figure you can just give it up ? LOL.
Hey man you probably wouldnt have much of a life it wasnt for HLA.

> The second carpinter gives away his assembler,
> subject of course, to the restrictions of
> the GPL.

The only restriction to the GPL is to pay tribute to
the orgin og the code you use, and if you base you
work on that code, to supply that information, and
your code. If you code is not based on other peoples
work, you dont need to follow the GPL. In that case I
consider you very very nice man for still sharing it under GPL.
Theres is not restriction in the GPL, that you cannot take money for the
added work, or for the applications that you produse with you own added
work,
but you must include the source code, but only upon somebody asking for it.
It MUST not be embedded in the exe or readme files.

>
> The first carpenter is busy preparing a
> place for us in his father's house, which
> has many rooms.

Or you got duped. If Betov says "have a nice death"
and what you belive is true, then he actually wiches you
a happy after life with your imaginary lord in the heavens.
But I guess the father would kick you right out after you
tried to spam him with the *** about HLA all the time.

The second carpenter is
> busy preparing an assembler that has many
> things you don't normally find in an
> assembler (like ASCII charts).

Also it contains lot of nice - easy to grasp - straight - features
not packed in in miles of BS and parantesis
and wannebee C/Pascal bloat professsor crap.
that just dont make sense. And it does things
the simplest, clearest and best way for an assembler
beginner and its not even done yet. Its cool. And
young people will going to find it cool. They will
look right through the bullcrap of the die hard professors.
Who belives in vrigin births by the way, and still claim
to make sence.

> The first carpenter tells us that whosoever
> belives in him will not perish.

Amazingly they still persish all the same.

>The second
> carpenter tells us that we should believe him,
> someday he'll get the bugs out of his code.

I never saw him saying anything of the sort.
Did someone smack you in the back of the
head with 4by4 ?

> The first carpenter said that we should trust
> in his Father, the most high.

High on what ? Fish ? O2, Drugs ? LOL.
I have seen better rants from a 16 years old,
grandpa. Stick to PDF. Your poetry suck.

> The second
> carpenter says we should not trust anything
> high-level at all.

Well that is what other programmers (e.g.ME) who
HAVE trusted HLL, has come to the same conclusion.
HLL creates followers. Not programmers. Thats is the point
of Spasm. And you do NOT get it. Its simple truth which
you dont get after all this time. HLL force you to use
all your time studying other programmers thoughts, and
as you breath again, and are ready to build on it, they
smack you in the face with 100 new thinks for you just
to keep up studying, most of which you allready knew, but not
in such a fancy term. You never get to create anything.
When you do make somethings with it, theese tools, you
will sooner than later run into a lot of problems. Theese
blackboxes will not work to your benefit, unless all you want to do
is configure existing functionality, if you need something
slighlty diffrent, more power, wreak barriers, you must rewrite or do it
from scratch anyway. Because of lack of good documentation, and inherent
limitations in the
implementations. Even if full source code is provided you will have to
rewrite large parts of
it. And sometimes, that work is so huge that you might as well create your
own
stuff.

> The first carpenter died on a cross for our sins.

How highly saintiuos of him. My mother suffered much more
than he did. And people kill them self all the time, many times
because this half fake jerk. If Jesus could be given the oportunity
to choose again, he would be insane for making the same choose
given the terrible outcome of his acts. Whats so saintly about taking
you own life. Jesus was suicidal. Great leader !

> The second carpenter is cross with us for the
> sin of using someone else's assembler.

Bullocks. He often recommend 3 or 4 other assemblers.
But look at the code you gave us for the text based games ?
Its *** code. Worse than C and have nothing to do with assembler.
You are creating a HLL and just like betov says, you are doing it
to create followers. Just know that all followers will one day recent
the man they followed. I can take Spasm, kick Betov and use
it exactly as I want. He could kick me as well. Ands STILL I would
like his tools. They got Spasm, and Spunk. HLA seems impotent.

> The first carpenter said "Render under Caesar,
> that which is Caesar's..." The second carpenter
> says that it's okay to use software without
> paying for it because all software should be
> free anyway.

I have never seen him say that. But nowadays I agree
with it, since in the near future not getting access to programming
information freely might be the death of us.
I understand that dissassembly might be difficult to
accomplish, if not impossible, but this too might change.....
In 70 years a single cpu will have powers
almost unimaginable to us today. By that time
cracking a GUID may take less than a second
for ONE SINGLE CPU.........

> The first carpenter said that in order to have
> eternal life, we must be reborn as a little child.

Yes... thus making it a very likely things to happen ?.......!
You are talking about pastlives and stuff right ?

Life:
   You live, life suck, you suck too and then you die, then your get
   reborn as a litle child again.
Loop Life

> The second carpenter said that for his assembler
> to have any life, assembly must be reborn.

Its a figure of speach. HLA seems to be C reborn.
C reborn ? How can that make more sense (to you) than
assembler reborn.

> The first carpenter said "my words will last
> forever".

Well. He was to big for his hat. Perhaps.
Id be lucky or not if people would just even read
my words, once.

The second carpenter changed the name
> of his assembler because the original incarnation
> garnered such bad publicity.

No it did not. According to Beth, it was done to
associate it with React/OS. Thoose who still cannot
see that ReactOS might be worthy cause, have not been
paying much attention. We need many new OS.
.NET will otherwise burry us.
Having a Win2000 clone with full source documentation
is a (IMO) very good cause for humanity.

By the way RantAll, have you any plans for making HLA .NET
compileable ? If not you'll be left in the trail of it when its soon
will spread like a virus to all machines in the world, making
everyones PC do the job of the net ? At that time, i will have completed
my transfer to another OS. I could well be that this OS is ReactOS.

> The first carpenter came to Earth to fight satan
> and all that is evil.

He must feel proud of his .net accomplishment.

>The second carpenter uses
> his assembler as a weapon to fight: (1) Microsoft,

Halleluja.

> (2) HLA,

Oh god. HLA and micro$loth together in the same sentence.
Have you grown any wings latly ? Muhaaa.
King of Condescendence, HLA King, RantAll Hide.

 (3) MASM, (4) Bill Gates, (5) Randy Hyde,

Bill Gates + RantAll Hide. LOL LOL LOL.
Stop smoking that Fish. Start using a illegal drug.
You'd be better off.

> (6) Steve Hutchessen, and of course, that
> "Evil Satan" the United States of America.

You know, you shouldnt joke about that one.
FBI might create a record on you for saying things
like that...... *gg*

After reading that USA debt to china is in the neighboorhood
of 6000 Billon dollars. I got scared.

> Ocassionally, the second carpenter uses his
> assembler to fight various other evil doers, too.

????

> The first carpenter rose from the dead on the
> third day.

Yes and then he flew to the stars............Like Neo.

> The second carpenter resurrected his
> assembler after it should have been left for dead.

Betov really knows how to do that ? Thats awsome.

> The first carpenter was crucified.
> The second carpenter likes to crucify other products.

No thats your job RantAll. From the number of posting
you make to state that HLA is the ANSWER to all programmers
problems, from beginners to advanced users, compared to
the few postings from Betov, I'd say that you Rants has a lot
more impact. I not sure though; that you're able to see this.

>
> The first carpenter spoke in parables.
> The second carpenter speaks in nonsense.
>
You speak in parables too. And in nonsense.
And HLA is the *** between them ?

> The first carpenter said "drink this wine in
> remembrance of me." The second carpenter seems
> to be drinking wine all the time to forget his
> problems.

Thats a mouthful from someone getting high on fish. :-)

> When the waves were high and his disciples were
> peeing their pants, the first carpenter calmed
> the waves. The second carpenter just pisses on
> everyone.

So you've felt the warmt of a french golden shower lately ?

>
> The first carpenter walked on the water.
> The second carpenter just claims that a "preparser"
> will allow him to do that in the near future.

Oh happyness. This rant is not even funny.
Its tragic ! Dont you see that RantAll? You shouldnt
post like this unless you know how to do it.
Its not even funny, and its not clever !

> The first carpenter taught his disciples.
> The second carpenter doesn't have time for beginners.
>

OMG you bore me to death. If that better than wishing me dead ?

> The first carpenter, when He was 12 years old,
> impressed the elders and priests with his knowledge.
> The second carpenter, as an elder, seems to impress
> a bunch of 12-year-olds.
>

I am 35 and I am not extremly impressed by any code sequence anymore.
But Spasm has the right fuel, allright.

> The first carpenter was crucified for the things he said.
> The second carpenter is constantly getting crucified for
> the things he says. The difference is, the first
> carpenter, as he prophesized, rose from the dead;
> the second carpenter just keeps digging himself a deeper
> and deeper grave.

And you are heading the same way ?
Spasm is here in 5 versions. AoA is here, but HLA itself is not here.
And it never was.
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> Cheers, :-)
> Randy Hyde
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