Re: A Parable of Two Carpenters

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Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:53:07 -0600

*sigh*

"HALF A WANNABEE"... do you want to be more than just half of something? do
you truely desire to be more? if you do want more than just half a life...
half of the joy imaginable... half of a promised existence... then read this
entire post...

> I can see you've been reading the bible a lot. LOL.

The Bible is the inspired Word of God. It is true to the core. True, it was
written by the HANDS of man, their experiences and lifestyles affecting the
overall makeup of the book(s) they wrote, but the exact words put to papyrus
or parchment, were dictated to those men, under the holy anointing of God's
Spirit, who gave them the wisdom and insight about what they were writing.

> > The first carpenter was born of a virgin,
>
> LOL Thats impossible RantAll.

And that's why they call it a "miracle"... It was prophecied hundreds of
years before it happened, too, so that all would know about it when it
happened. (And the validity of the prophecy can't be overlooked, by the way.
The parchments HAVE BEEN DATED back to several hundred years BC)

which reminds me... what year is it right now? (according to the calendar
you use)

> > The first carpenter said "I am the truth,
> > the way, the life."
>
> And now his dead ! Poor bagger.

no... he was dead for three days... He is alive... the grave is empty...
yes, empty.. fly out there and check yourself if you wish... and no... there
couldn't have been graverobbers... the stone was sealed by royal decree, and
guards were posted at the tomb...

He is very much alive, and I talk to Him everyday... He is constantly making
special requests to the Father on my behalf... unfortunately, some of the
things I could tell you about, you'd only think i'm crazy or lying, or that
it was coincidence...

> > The first carpenter is busy preparing a
> > place for us in his father's house, which
> > has many rooms.
>
> Or you got duped. If Betov says "have a nice death"
> and what you belive is true, then he actually wiches you
> a happy after life with your imaginary lord in the heavens.

I just asked God to reveal Himself to you... God said that He has tried, and
still tries.
(to everyone else: Seriously, only deep intercessory prayer will help him at
this point)
"The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

> > The first carpenter tells us that whosoever
> > belives in him will not perish.
>
> Amazingly they still persish all the same.

the flesh dies, the soul lives on...

> > The first carpenter said that we should trust
> > in his Father, the most high.
>
> High on what ? Fish ? O2, Drugs ? LOL.
> I have seen better rants from a 16 years old,
> grandpa. Stick to PDF. Your poetry suck.

KING of Kings, LORD of Lords
in other words, all answer to Him, and He to no other

> > The first carpenter died on a cross for our sins.
>
> How highly saintiuos of him. My mother suffered much more
> than he did. And people kill them self all the time, many times
> because this half fake jerk. If Jesus could be given the oportunity
> to choose again, he would be insane for making the same choose
> given the terrible outcome of his acts. Whats so saintly about taking
> you own life. Jesus was suicidal. Great leader !

You evidently haven't a clue of the extent he suffered. They spit in His
face and beat Him with their bare hands first, all the while mocking Him. He
was flogged with what they call a "cat of nine tails"; it's a whip with
shards of glass, and rough metal and stone, and lead balls in the tips. This
whip literally tears off chunks of flesh. Afterwards, they wrapped up a
branch of thorns into a crown, and pushed it into His skull. (Many
historians say that the thorns used were typically 4 inches long, sometimes
longer, and that they'd take a stone and hammer the thorns into the person's
head. Keep in mind that Jesus was being treated as any criminal sentenced to
death would be, so there are many other historical records depicting the
regular dealings with criminals, and some of the irregular dealings, thus
further confirming what Jesus went through.) They mocked Him more, and then
forced Him to carry His cross. The cross was normally rough-cut and
extremely heavy (well, for someone that's already half dead by that time).
With the size of it, I would estimate it was somewhere between 100 and 200
pounds. As the person carrying the heavy cross walked, large splinters would
dig into their back and shoulder. Jesus had been flogged not too long before
this, so those splinters were digging deep into his wounds. To make matters
worse, the soldiers would push and kick the criminals during their walk up
to Golgotha, so that pushed splinters even further in. When they reached the
top of the hill, they laid the criminals down on the cross, and drove
extremely long nails into the wrists (they considered that as part of the
hands), and the upper portion of the feet (both feet held by a single nail),
and stood up the crosses. The nails were driven into the hands and feet in a
spot where the criminal couldn't fall off the cross. If the nail was driven
into the palm of the hand, there would only be flesh holding them to the
cross, and with all of their weight on it, they'd just fall off, the nail
tearing out right between two fingers. The wrist isn't as easily torn, as
there are many bones holding everything together. Also, where the nails were
placed, there's lots of nerves, so it was extremely painful, and any
movement made it worse. Add to that, the fact that their physical endurance
had already been extinguished by flogging and carrying the cross up the
hill. They're out of breath and in extreme pain. Usually, they'd leave
their entire body limp, hanging by their hands, but that severely limited
their lung capacity, so they'd have to occasionally straighten their legs
(exerting force on the nail in their feet, thus causing a great deal of pain
there), take a deep breath, and let their legs go again (placing the weight
on the hands again, causing more pain). The up and down worked even more
splinters into their back.

The flogging started somewhere early in the morning, possibly 7am or 8am.
The cruxcificion was around 9am or 10am. At noon, the sky went dark for 3
hours, as Jesus took the sins of everyone upon Him. Shortly after that,
Jesus said his last words on the cross, and "gave up the ghost". All the
sins of the world were not only covered, but washed, with the blood of the
pure Lamb. At that moment, the veil in the temple was torn in two, since now
Jesus is our High Priest who intercedes on our behalf, to the Father.

> > The first carpenter said that in order to have
> > eternal life, we must be reborn as a little child.
>
> Yes... thus making it a very likely things to happen ?.......!
> You are talking about pastlives and stuff right ?
>
> Life:
> You live, life suck, you suck too and then you die, then your get
> reborn as a litle child again.
> Loop Life

Surely you don't expect to crawl back into your mother's womb, and come out
again. It is a new birth of the spirit. You accept that Jesus died for your
sins, or more correctly, BECAUSE of your sins. You believe that He rose from
the dead three days later. You confess that you've sinned. You decide to
repent (which is most important), meaning you make up your mind to turn away
from those sins and make a conscious effort to try not to do them anymore.
And... You receive the gift of eternal life as well as the promise of
abundant life here on earth.

It's as simple as that.

Accept + Believe + Confess + Decide = Eternal

...that's the keys to remembering it...

> > The first carpenter said "my words will last
> > forever".
>
> Well. He was to big for his hat. Perhaps.

Look at the Bible... It's lasted this long...

> > The first carpenter came to Earth to fight satan
> > and all that is evil.
>
> He must feel proud of his .net accomplishment.

Actually... His first visit wasn't the BIG FIGHT... it was just the decisive
one...

He will return, with the armies of Heaven and I will be riding along with
Him.

He will have fire in His eyes, and a sword in His hand, and will be riding a
white horse, waging war against the Earth at the end of the Tribulation.

> > The first carpenter rose from the dead on the
> > third day.
>
> Yes and then he flew to the stars............Like Neo.

He went to prepare a place for us...

A BIG, BIG house, with lots and lots of rooms...
A BIG, BIG table, with lots and lots of food...
A BIG, BIG yard, where we can play football...
A BIG, BIG house... It's my Father's house...

So, come, and go with me, to my Father's house.

Sincerely,
Child of God

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