Re: RosAsm?[OT#2]

From: Evenbit (nbaker2328_at_charter.net)
Date: 04/22/04 

Date: 21 Apr 2004 19:35:21 -0700

"Beth" <BethStone21@hotmail.NOSPICEDHAM.com> wrote in message news:<4sphc.22$Zr5.4@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>...
> Nathan C. Baker wrote:
> > Beth wrote:
> > <SNIP>
> > > [From "Bloomsbury Dictionary of Word Origins" (funny
> pronounciation
> > > accent marks on some of the word ommitted because of ASCII and UK
> > > keyboard) ]
> >
> > I see you've learned to cite your reference.
>
[SNIP]
>
> I suppose my point is: I'm not really expecting for things to be taken
> quite so seriously for one in a thousand long ranting - often
> pointless and off-topic - postings I make...you know, when you chat
> with a friend, you'd have to be pretty "anally retentive" to end your
> conversation with a "bibliography" of which "mad drunkard down the
> pub" told you about "alien conspiracies", complete with dates...the
> problem being that some posts are "somewhere in-between"...long and
> "article-like" but I'm NOT proposing a new thesis on relativity or
> whatever...I just ain't writing these things as articles but long
> "streams of consciousness"...the old "number and bibliography" doesn't
> fit into that...that kind of thing assumes a _plan_ and some "random
> access"...nope, just one long stream of sequential ranting crap from
> me is what's to be expected...

But, aren't women naturally providing references when they gossip?
"Oh, my God! Can you believe it? I heard from Janice that her cousin
said that last Saturday, Angie said she was upset that Billy left the
toilet seat up."

I get your point though. I guess my fixation on references is a
holdover from the old days of CompuServe where many discussions were
taken more seriously because that service was mainly used by
professionals and academics; also from my participation on a regional
BBS (the Golden-Age of computerdum;) where serious political debates
were waged and one learns quickly not say anything they aren't
prepared to back up.

>
> I _DO_ mostly have "references", mind you (granted, not
> always...sometimes it just me ranting away from "memory" alone and,
> oops, flawed recollection of the facts...or, ummm, didn't actually
> understand the subject as well as I thought I did..._should_ have
> checked it up...got arrogant that "ah, I know all about it", didn't
> bother, wrote something real dumb and stupid ;)...books here, web

At least you are big enough to admit it. Kind of foolish of Alex and
I to expect a "female" to understand mechanical things anyway.

"Girls don't know nuphen 'bout engines! Jest put da kids ta bed an'
gets me a beer...I'll have the greasy motor off da kitch'n table by
morn'n -- I promise!" ;-)

[SNIP]
>
> > BTW, just wondering, is there really any difference between UK and
> US
> > keyboards?
>
> Yes; But not a vast amount of difference...I actually did supply some
> of the information about the differences to the "OS for dummies"
> website (it had US scancodes...Tim Robinson, I think it was, provided
> UK scancodes...I spotted that, oops, one or two weren't actually right
> and think one key was actually mislabelled - don't know if that was
> Tim or it just got copied wrongly into the "ASCII chart" or a little
> of both - so sent in an "amendment" about it...which I still think
> doesn't really deserve the credit in the "contributors" section of the
> website for just one or two "Tim's left out...the scancode is
> actually..." comments and nothing more than that as my "great
> contribution" there ;)...

Hey! You GO girl! Get all the "fifteen minutes of fame" you can
grab! :-)

>
> http://my.execpc.com/~geezer/osd/kbd/uk-1.txt
>

One difference of particular note: above the "3" on my keyboard is
the "#" which we call the number sign or the pound sign, but is (to my
knowledge) not equivalent to the UK monetary symbol. In fact, your
pound symbol is not on my keyboard at all. So, either the engineers
were making a subtle statement of their feelings about the "mother
country" or they were being far-sighted vissionaries knowing that
countries would start adopting common currencies and these archaic
symbols would be dropped anyways.

> different symbol ("£", Hoping that this symbol transfers properly...it
> should do but it is outside the usual ASCII range that you can't

It shows up here just fine. I just can't produce it easily...

> Also, some computer games also simply "presume" the US mapping...you
> know, the game checks the "installed language"...sees "English" as the
> "main language" but doesn't bother to check the "sub-language
> identifier" that it's "UK" and not "US"...in other words, pesky
> American programmers presuming the UK is the same automatically...or

Internationalization is always "sermoned" in the journals, but, as
usual, we like to sleep through the boring sermons. If our military
conquests go as planned, the entire world will be speaking and writing
American English anyway, so.... ;-)

>
> I'm actually NOT a "touch typist"...never learnt to do it the
> "official" way...though, I can reach much the same speeds and it's

I took a class in High School and we had those old manual typewriters
(I am half-afraid that a young reader is going to ask "What is a
typewriter?" ;). We memorized the keys in groups by repeatedly typing
that group in various ways. When it came time to learn the group that
included the "P" key, I had trouble pushing the key all the way down
with my pinky. So, I decided to use the other finger...and that
finger doubles for the "O" and the "P" to this day...but, strangly
enough, I do manage to hit the "Q" key with the other pinky. Go
figure.

L8r...

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