Re: Random number question?
From: Alex McDonald (alex_mcd_at_btopenworld.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:43:13 +0000 (UTC)
"Sulaiman Chang" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> Hi newsgroup,
> i am kinda interested with your topic about random number.
> so, let me define what is random number first!
> when you want to use the word "random", then you must allow it to have the
> power to choose WHATSOEVER number from the infinite numbers.
> negative infinity ...-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3 ... positive infinity.
> let say, if you set a range of number from 0 to 35 and you want it to
> generate random numbers. That is wrong because you already set a limit to
> the number it can chooses from. If IT HAS NO POWER to chooses whatsoever
> number, this means, it has to follow a set of rulez, a set of in range
> numbers AND IT WILL BE A CONTRADICTION AGAINST THE WORD "RANDOM" coz
> RANDOM NUMBERS means WHATSOEVER NUMBERS.
Ouch. I don't think so. It's possible to generate random binary numbers (0
and 1). If you can't predict the next 0 or 1, then its random. You've
limited the numbers to integers too; why not specify rationals? Or
irrationals? Here's a better definition (from http://mathworld.wolfram.com)
"A random number is a number chosen as if by chance from some specified
distribution such that selection of a large set of these numbers reproduces
the underlying distribution. Almost always, such numbers are also required
to be independent, so that there are no correlations between successive
numbers." See that bit about "from some specified distribution"? Says
nothing about negative infinity to positive infinity.
Or? Looks like a different topic to me.
> if you are able to program a software/script to generate random number,
> simply means, the software will follow what you already set or programmed
> generate (so called) random numbers. The software/script or PC still have
> POWER to choose WHATSOEVER numbers from the infinity pool of numbers. So
> this simply means the generated (so called) random numbers still cannot be
> called "RANDOM NUMBERS" only if you understand my LOGIC.
> so, does RANDOM still exists!
> RANDOM is one of the power that God possesses. When you want to call it
> then you must give God [TOTAL POWER] otherwise it will be a God with a
> of authority and power (which we don't call it "GOD") Can you call it God
> it cannot does this and that, cannot make you come back alive, cannot make
> heaven and hell, cannot make judgement day and so on.
and the definition doesn't say anything about God either.
> let say if you are a GOOD person, and God wants you to enter hell,
> Can God put you into hell eventough you are a good person? (Scroll down
So the whole of your argument kinda fizzles out; somewhere around para 2 I'd
say. No need to scroll down on this one.
> Sulaiman Chang bin Abdullah
-- Regards Alex McDonald