Re: HLA v1.68 is now available

From: Randall Hyde (randyhyde_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 07/29/04 

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:42:57 GMT

"Betov" <betov@free.fr> wrote in message
news:XnF9535A973E5DF1betovfreefr@212.27.42.69...
>
>
> As long as we cannot promote RosAsm, the less we can
> do is to fight against the Anti-Assembly attempts.

As they say, "the best defense is a great offense".
Perhaps if you spent less time "fighting Anti-Assembly attempts"
(i.e., being defensive) and spent more time getting your
product out the door so you could promote it (e.g., fix
the bugs that cause it to crash), you'd achieve your goals
a whole lot sooner, eh?

>
> The Master Pdf claim saying that these fights have no
> effect but contributing to promote HLA is one more
> swindling. Believe me, he would be _very_ happy if i
> had taken the decision to shut up at alt.lang.asm the
> way i had to do on all other medias.

What a high opinion you have of yourself!
Do you really think I care what you do or think?
You are an amusement, nothing more.
It is a lot of fun getting you riled up and watching
you descend into profanity and nonsense. It is fun
watching you make a fool of yourself claiming things
like "I can generate optimized branch displacements
without making multiple passes over the code".
It is fun to watch to claim that RosAsm doesn't crash.
It is fun watching you way things like "that isn't a 'real'
assembly program, so RosAsm doesn't have to handle it."

In the meantime, despite all your efforts, HLA becomes
more and more popular. The few people you *do* sway,
such as Wannabe and Wolfgang, are great. They're not
the types of people I'd want associated with HLA.
So you're doing a great job of keeping HLA in the
forefront of everyone's minds, and pulling away people
that would probably do HLA more harm that good.
So, no, I wouldn't be very happy if you just shut up.
You are contributing greatly to the HLA marketing efforts.

And if you think that newcomers give you any credibility
beyond the second or third post of your's that they read,
well, try reading the responses here in A.L.A. sometime.

> Why do you think
> Beth regulary tries to convinve me with this? On a
> free a media, allowing real words and real facts Master
> Pdf chances of success, in any debate, is null. The fact
> that, in such a Thread, you can see a couple of HLA trolls
> coming and trying to rescue the situation has no importance.
> Many others are reading the posts silently and can understand
> the meaning of the words. Limiting the disaster is important.

What you say about most people being silent is true.
But it is *quite* telling that the vast majority of people who
*do* respond do not have kind words to say about you.
Statistically, the "silent majority" probably agree/disagree
in like numbers. If you really think that all the lurkers agree
with you and the only people who post here are "HLA trolls",
then you know very little about how the world of marketing
works. Then again, you seem to think that the day RosAsm
self-compiles under ReactOS all the HLL programmers in the
world will immediately install ReactOS and start writing all
their applications in RosAsm. Given that delusion, it's pretty
clear you understand nothing about marketing your assembler.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

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