Re: How many here think we should close down alt.lang.asm?

From: Randall Hyde (randyhyde_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 09/12/04 

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:05:20 GMT

"Jim Higgins" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
>
> Yes, exactly - remembering I mean that only in the context of
> Usenet. If *EVERYONE* - and I mean that literally - will filter
> and ignore Rene, he will be neutralized. When someone who
> doesn't filter him (and who isn't filtered by others) responds to
> him, then that response becomes visible to all and the crap
> starts. When someone won't filter him because they can't stand
> the idea that he might say something they'll miss, then
> eventually that person responds and it starts again.

Jim, the problem with that theory is that new people step
in here all the time. If everyone "in the know" added Rene
to their kill files, that wouldn't stop Rene and there would
be less responses to his B.S. Then people would actually
begin to believe that stuff. I discovered this a year or so
ago when I added Rene to my kill file for several months.
After reading some follow-up posts to his nonsense, I discovered
that ignoring him was a very *bad* idea.

>
> Standing up for yourself in a battle of words on Usenet when the
> result pollutes all around you is the behavior of 4th graders on
> the school playground, not the behavior of adults acting like
> adults.

The alternative is that people start to begin his nonsense after
it goes unchallenged for a while.

> Agreed. You seem to think "supporters" is an insult. You are
> mistaken. Rene's crap on Usenet doesn't mean or amount to much
> of anything in the larger scheme of things, but the rebuttals
> trash the group for everyone. Children feel a need to respond to
> every insult; adults know better.

See the above.
Some people think that ignoring terrorists works, too.

>
> Of course he will. I thought I recognized that fact specifically
> within a few sentences of saying it. And when that happens, what
> will be different? I'll tell you. What will be different is
> that alt.lang.asm will be rid of it and it will be in
> alt.lang.asm.hla or alt.lang.asm.rosasm. That, sir, is at
> least a marginal improvement for some and no worse than status
> quo for the rest. If not a win-win, it's at least a win-break
> even.
>
> Do you begin to understand where I'm coming from now?

The presence of those other groups will not change anything around here.
RosAsm and HLA forums already exist elsewhere.
Yet here we are.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde