Re: [OT] Why Bush?

From: Beth (BethStone21_at_hotmail.NOSPICEDHAM.com)
Date: 10/22/04 

Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:20:02 GMT

wolfgang kern wrote:
> Hi Beth,

Hi :)

> | > WW3 will end right after the European-Uniting-War ends,
> | > I've heard this will happen in spring 2023.
>
> | Ummm, Italy were on Hitler's "axis" side during WWII...
>
> Yes, until Americans came to visit Italy.
> Then other flags were raised quickly throughout the whole country.
> Finally they celebrated victory on the 'correct' side.

:)

How perfectly...non-committal of them...

Anyway, you slightly misunderstand what I mean...I'm talking about the
_actual_ "sides" in that conflict - fascism vs. Libtertarianism - which is
what matters, not which pieces of fabric were flapping about in the wind at
the moment of Nazi defeat...for example, though America as a whole may have
been on the "correct" side, grand-daddy Bush treasonously supplying the
Nazis was NOT on the "correct" side because he was a fascist sympathiser
and active traitorous co-conspirator to the supposed "master race"...he was
directly and actively aiding the enemy, well after the "trading with the
enemy" laws were passed, to aid Hitler in his slaughter of Jews and, by
extension, was feeding the enemy to murder American troops...

This, by the way, is the "pedigree" of the Monarch currently presiding in
the White House...ah, you can just imagine the conversations "grand-daddy"
and "junior" had while he was bouncing him on his knee: "Now, remember,
little junior, everyone will be expecting us to exterminate the Jews...so,
instead, build your concentration camps and send your wars against _the
Muslims_ this time because that wider form of anti-semitism is still just
as popular as the old Jewish variety once was throughout the world...you
can get around to the Jews afterwards but don't arouse suspicion because it
was Hitler's arrogance to be too quick and too obvious that gave the
opposition time to prepare and react...so, remember, take it slow, keep it
hidden and then the glory of our 'master race' will finally take the
Earth!"...

Far-fetched? Not as much as it should be...he was a Nazi, to all intents
and purposes, after all, aiding them treasonously well past the laws
prohibiting aiding the enemy...if he believed such things, we're to believe
he didn't in some way mention them or pass them onto his chlidren and
grandchildren in conversation? The Bush family riches are founded on this
treasonous blood money from the systematic extermination of the Jews in the
Holocaust that "grand-daddy" didn't just believe in this crap but has
reason to be grateful to the "master race"...

After all, Bush senior openly talked of "New World Order" (read his lips,
indeed)...Bush junior is now using exactly the same excuses and strategies
Hitler used when a "terrorist" attacked the Reichstag to get popular public
support for "pre-emptive action" and the setting up of concentration camps
to deal with the "Jewish problem" (it's just now apparently an "Islamic
problem" under Bush)...on his "Crusade" (his term), fulfilling the re-named
"Project for an American Century" New-World-Order plan, having public
backing all the way...I'm sure the Germans did, at one point, think they
were backing the right horse in Hitler too...

It's _crucial_ to distinguish between "Nazi" and "Germany"...between
"fascist" and what flag may or may not be acting as a "Trojan Horse" from a
flag pole pretending otherwise...Italy was under fascism, so it was on the
"wrong side" so long as any of its peoples still held to fascist
principle...

> | Where are you hearing these things? ...
>
> I think this are mind-remains from history-lessons,
> history always repeats itself with just minor changes ...

Well, of course history repeats itself because the participants of
history - _us_, currently - never do anything to change its course...

This is like staring at a cup of water and saying "water doesn't
move!"...well, not quite, it _would_ move, if you actually _did something_
to make it move...might as well line up with all the other inanimate,
unliving things, if we're all going to insist on being so "reactionary" to
everything and never take up the initiative...

History _DOES_ change...when people _ACTIVELY MAKE IT SO_...for obvious
example, a woman speaking as an equal (worse, a woman actually "preaching"
to a degree to men ;)? It wasn't given, you know...equal sufferage was
fought for and people died getting it...Gandhi fought the British Empire
and shamed us to the degree that we do NOT comfortably refer to the empire
anymore...imagine a country ashamed of flying its own flag and that's what
Gandhi managed because we flew that flag - just as the Stars and Stripes is
often flown, just as the Swastika was flown - while engaging in our
crimes...he taught us the criminality of our behaviours and then the flag
has never - maybe will never, as this is decades and decades later with the
same sentiment still actively felt in this country - meant the same thing
since...it's just a "symbol" only now to distinguish one country from
another...Gandhi, in a sense, taught us the foolishness of such "false
gods" or "golden cows"...Nixon was actively going to nuke Vietnam but the
peace protests stopped him (he admits as much in his
autobiography)...Hitler would probably have won if Churchill hadn't -
against the grain of Chamberlain's "peace in our time" appeasement -
_ACTIVELY FOUGHT_ the fascist Nazi menance, once he realised what it really
represented...

History _DOES_ change...and water _CAN_ move...but it won't ever do it
spontaneously...you will be oppressed every single day of your life, until
you _take up the fight_ with your oppressor (those bullied as a child might
_STILL_ be suffering being a "victim" their whole, entire lives UNTIL they
take up that fight...I knew someone who was a total push-over because they
were always bullied as a kid and never got out of that "pattern" of
behaviour...and they told me that they'd been like this because they'd been
hit in class...the teacher had turned around, asking what had
happened...the bully spoke up and said "he hit me, miss", to which the
teacher replied "hit him back" and the bully had another chance to hit
them...the total lack of fairness and injustice there had forced them into
a "victim" shell ever since...my reply was simple: "hit them back" /
"but...but...they are bigger than me" / "yes, I know...hit them back" /
"but...but...violence isn't the answer" / "yes, I know...but before you can
share and give away to others, you must first know what it's like to own
possessions...hit them back" / "But...but...this would start a cycle of
revenge" / "No, it wouldn't...because you are involved in the cycle and you
may at any point choose not to hit back...even if you only do it once, hit
them back!"...the bully had stolen possession of this person's life...it
matters not if you win the battle or they are bigger than you or whatever,
you _MUST_ fight or you will NEVER "own" yourself or your own destiny
properly...and this CAN and DOES last a person's entire life...so I say it
to you too: HIT THEM BACK! You will "lose"? Sorry, that's impossible...you
may receive the greater physical retaliation but, trust me, you cannot
actually lose...

That was always the component of Churchill's "We shall fight them on the
beaches" speech that is so often ignored by many...remember, it was an
infamous speech to rouse the people to fight...and, yet, Churchill openly
talks of the possibility of _defeat_ ("if this island should
fall")..._THAT_ is the most crucial part of the speech...even in physical
defeat, he says, we shall NEVER SURRENDER...we shall fight them on the
beaches, indeed..._wherever they may be_...

The moment of "defeat" is not when the enemy conquers you but when you give
up the Ghost of the struggle against them (when France surrendered, not
when the Nazis took control)...the moment of "victory" was D-Day - when we
took the fight to them - not VE-day...

History will not change - Newton's law of motion: "an object at rest will
remain at rest unless an external force acts upon it" - unless you HIT BACK
at history to _FORCE_ it to change for the better...millions have sat
around waiting to win the Lottery...the actual rich people are those who
actually _go and get it_ pro-actively...millions have sat around waiting
for governments to grant them rights...the only ones who actually got such
rights are the ones who _actively fought_ to get them...millions have and
still are sitting around waiting for things to spontaneously land in your
lap...it's not rocket science and they themselves can confirm what I'm
saying is true...it never does come, does it? You must _GO AND GET IT_ for
yourself...

If the world is unjust then we _are_ the world so it is _ourselves_ who are
being unjust...we are the "enemy" of ourselves...literally, wars happen
when the human race fights itself...don't wait until your death bed to
realise this truth...realise it now and _seize_ upon it _NOW_...time and
tide wait for no man...

"Carpe Diem" (or "Carpe Nostra", due to time zones, for some of you out
there ;)

> And with the help of a six-pack of beer, things become more
> obvious and clear :)

Not my preferred six pack...but it has some things to be said for it...just
never let alcohol be your only friend...I've seen the consequences of that
and they aren't pretty...it can very easily cease to be a joke and
"fun"...far too easily...I'm not a tea totaller but I had a friend who
become an alcoholic (and once you become an alcoholic - just to be clear -
you cannot ever cease being an alcoholic ever after...it's a permanent
position) and appreciate first-hand the other dark side which isn't "fun"
or a "joke"...I do appreciate the joke but, of course, we actually know
that alcohol actually does the _total reverse_ of "obvious and
clear"...it's only an optical illusion, in the end...

Beth :)

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