Re: [ Attn: Randy ] Ad-hoc Parsing?
From: C (blackmarlin_at_asean-mail.com)
Date: 12/16/04
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Date: 16 Dec 2004 05:38:40 -0800
Betov wrote:
> "T.M. Sommers" <tms@nj.net> écrivait
> news:lQcwd.181$uN2.74003@monger.newsread.com:
>
> > SevagK wrote:
> >>
> >> Hehe. Installing is the easy part. Figuring out why it can't
find a
> >> file that's definitely in the same directory you are viewing is a
> >> whole other matter!
> >
> > What is the 'it' that can't find the file? Do you have the
> > appropriate permissions for that directory? File? Did you try
> > 'ls -a'?
>
>
> This is not the job of an OS user to try anything
> like 'ls -a'. An OS is there to _do_ the user job,
> to _show_ the user where the things are, and so on,
> and this is exactely where Linux completely fails,
> and why almost no real final users want to use it.
What you descibe is _not_ the job of _any_ OS. It is
the job of the user interface or shell. The OS
exists to provide a uniform interface to hardware
so that applications do not need to know this.
> The fact that you seem to be proud of knowing how
> to type 'ls -a' is zero interrest, and such attitudes,
> that are out of reason pedantiscisms are what make me
> think that there are few hope for ever having any
> usable Linux. Mind you your opinions about Command
> Lines being "more powerful" than Click&Go counts
> for nope. What matters is that a decent OS _MUST_
> address, first, grand mothers and 5 years old children.
There are _several_ GUI interfaces for Linux, any of
these is suitable for novice users. While these
interfaces could use improvement, they are in general
no way inferior to Windows' IDE -- and given that Linux
has a range of _more_ powerful CLI shells installed as
standard, the advanced users are not crippled by a gui
which forces every action to be selected using a cursor
/ pointer.
> Now, even for the cases of Programmers, there is
> absolutely no reason why we should have any usage
> of Command Lines thingies. If an author of a Tool
> designed for Programming is unable to make it
> Click&Go, this is the final demonstration of his
> lack of competency. Nothing else.
If you regard the use of a CLI as not useful, how
would you do...
mv *.[1-9].asm dir/
... with a cli and _not_ have the user take several
minutes selecting the files from what could be
thousands of entries?
C
2004-12-16
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