Re: this is the time to pray

From: Randall Hyde (randyhyde_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 01/16/05 

Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:17:48 GMT

"JGCASEY" <jgkjcasey@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:1105834531.132142.52390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Even if such an entity existed it could not communicate
> with us for as you stated God is outside our personal
> frame of reference. An analogy might be humans trying
> to communicate our concepts to a worm through "special"
> worms that represent us. I don't think a creator would
> need to play such silly pointless games.

How do you know what the creator wants or doesn't want to
do? As for God not being able to work within our frame of
reference, that's just plain silly. Imagine I create an artificial
life form in a computer program. I can certainly communicate
with it through code and other channels I've created for that
purpose. Yet that artificial intelligence has no concept of
what the real world is like. Even if I were to create an
incredibly complex simulation, to the point we could claim
the AIform has "sentience", it would still have no concept
of the real world. Yet I could still "communicate" with that
AIform all I want.

>
> Life is a mystery, I don't need to pretend to understand
> or know things that really I can never understand or know
> due to my limited frame of reference.

That's a good attitude to take, and one I happen to share with you.
But the fact that I don't understand God or how the universe
exists outside my frame of reference doesn't mean that I cannot
figure out that it's *possible* for such a being to exist and that
there may be things beyond human comprehension. As I (mankind)
could never explain the creation of the universe, yet the universe exists,
there must be some explanation outside our comprehension.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

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