Re: Computer time -> Developer time -> User time?

From: Beth (BethStone21_at_hotmail.NOSPICEDHAM.com)
Date: 01/20/05 

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:52:47 GMT

drhowarddrfinedrhoward wrote:
> You should care that I can read but that you can't write intelligibly.

No, sorry, you're wrong...I shouldn't care at all...

Perhaps, you may assert that I can't write intelligibly...but I certainly
can _think_ intelligibly...and I know _exactly_ what game you're trying to
play...to win that game, you require "opposition" to play against...I
plainly refuse to be that opponent, sorry...

There's always Solitaire...that's a single player game...

> You have grammatical "pointers" that go nowhere, incomplete sentences,
improper
> punctuation, etc.

Correct; And yet I'm still a whole lot more interesting a read in my worst
writing - complete with all its grammatical mistakes, incomplete sentences,
"technical inaccuracy", etc. - than you'll ever manage to attain in your
entire life...kind of "sucks", don't it?

I'm sorry that this is the case...but, sorry, that's not my fault...

> You write in a halting manner and I believe all 11 pages
> could be condensed into one if one could understand what the heck you
said.

But that would NOT be what I intended to write...

A strange "phantom book review" (but surprisingly not atypical these
days)...reviewing NOT what it is but what one would liked it to have been:
"In reading the introductory chapter written by Stephen King, I could not
help but think it should have been written by Clive Barker instead...on the
first page, the author uses the word 'maybe' while I personally would have
preferred the use of the word 'perhaps' in its place because it would have
made me look ten times more intelligent...the book has 12 chapters but I
would have only had 7 chapters, were I writing it, because 7 is my lucky
number...upon reading the plot, I decided that a vampire story is not
fashionable and wouldn't adhere me, if I were writing the piece, to the
high-brow artistic classes and critics I regret so much that I'm unable to
mingle with socially...hence, this book is absolutely no good because it
isn't what I would have written, if I were the author...which I'm not...but
I so wish I could have been"...

So...who are you again? And why should I care if you'd have written it
differently?

Yes, if I were to have left out 90% of the content, then you'd be right
that it would have been much shorter...but that would have been a
completely different post...so, essentially, your criticism is: "if I were
writing it, then it would have been shorter"...yes, very
interesting...fortunately, you weren't writing it...so this criticism is
quite, quite irrevelent...

You're contending that the grammar is bad? Well, very possibly...in any
"toss up" being grammar or content, I freely admit content wins and bad
grammar may result...

But this is what I _INTENDED_ to write...the fact that you may yourself
have written it differently is, perhaps, an interesting point but it seems
to have no relevence to anything...almost "surreal" that you randomly bring
it up...

Look, if you can't or don't want to read my posts, then the solution is
very simple: _DON'T_...I have no gun and I wouldn't point it at your head
to read my posts, even if I did own one...

But this rather bizarre reply of posting "I won't read this!" is bordering
on surreal performance art or something...okay, fine, you either can't or
won't read it...very interesting...no-one really cares...it's your own
business and, to be honest, it can stay that way... 

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Anyway, people aren't completely stupid, you know...if you have a problem
with what the _CONTENT_ is saying, then come straight out and say so...
If you're worried by a promotion of "open source" development because you
have a lucrative income from commercial developments, then come straight
out and debate things on those points...
But trying to "mask" this in some other complaint about the way I write
posts, in order to "discredit" the post and poster, rather than address the
content?
Oh, come on...I often write _multiple_ posts of 20KB+ in a day and have
done so quite regularly for _YEARS_...and only _NOW_ you choose to comment
on the "bad grammar"?
In doing so, I regularly converse with people who's first language isn't
English...and _they_ seem more than able - even coming from a linguistical
disadvantage - to comprehend my posts perfectly happily...indeed, if you're
really having such difficulty reading, then you actually sound more like a
blithering idiot than the "superbrain authority of everything" you appear
to be setting yourself up as being...
It really doesn't come across as too credible a criticism, you know?
You're worried about a post that promotes "open source" development for
some reason...some people are in this position, true enough...perfectly
understood and respected...come out and give us your _ACTUAL_ criticisms of
the content in that regard...and we can debate it...would Love to do so, in
fact...
But this "discredit the post and poster" / "put off Beth from writing
anymore on the subject" tactic has been used repeatedly on me for years
now...I really can't even be bothered to "play along" anymore...it's
utterly illogical to the point of surrealism...
Yes, right...I've written many, many posts for years...all with this same
"style"...and _NOW_ you choose to criticise it? I confess, I'm not totally
unaware of who you are...I've seen your name on posts before, to know that
you're not someone who's just walked up for the first time...you've seen my
posts like this before plenty of times and only _NOW_ can you be bothered
to say anything? And this is supposed to be credible? We're supposed to
"fall" for this stupid trick?
Okay, here it is: "Yes, I is a dreadful writer...mine grammar are awful...I
always write incomplete sentences that"...there, you "win"...I completely
acknowledge I'm crap at writing posts...but, then again, I don't recall
that USENET postings are automatically entered into some "writing
competition"...or are taken and used as "role model examples of grammatical
usage" for English textbooks...I was not aware that this was some kind of
"exam" I was sitting here...I do apologise for failing...but, okay, I've
failed the "exam"...I didn't realise I was even sitting one...and, to be
honest, don't really care too greatly that I've failed it, anyway...
Right, that's now over and done with...did you have anything more to add?
No? Good...you can shut up now, then, eh?
Beth :)