Re: Fast UTF-8 strlen function
- From: Sevag Krikorian <kahlinor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:33:46 -0400
Beth wrote:
Good show! They had the right idea. They should've taken the next logical step like Turkey did and adopt the Roman alphabet.Yeah, that is, in fact, mostly the case...I knew a Vietnamese guy and there was a "standard" way to write Vietnamese stuff using ASCII characters...remember, ASCII has dominated for a while and, as such, "work arounds" already exist...
The whole point with UNICODE is that they _DON'T_ have to do that retarded crap anymore...and can use their own native language directly in their own script...and also without nonsense of "code pages" or "special character sets" to do it either...
What's retarded is trying to force a piece of hardware to do what it wasn't designed to do via overlays, remapping and awkward key-combinations.
This stuff exists for "backwards compatibility"...
Yes, that. A lot of modern day languages (if not all) have "backwards compatibility" as well. It's the reason why we end up with "door" pronounced "dor" instead of "dur" which one would expect from the "oo", while the whole thing should really be "tur" with a short "u"
[snipped messed up history of unicode]
Point 2: Regards your "phonetic alphabet"...it exists...it's called the IPA ("International Phonetic Alphabet")...it uses a letter for every sound and is a "standard" commonly used by dictionaries in order to show pronounciation...
Nope, it's not "my" phonetic alphabet. My idea is for them all to fit on 27 keys, using key combinations + 2-4 accentuating keys `~'^
This is not "phonetic" as that implies each sound having a unique key. As you point out following, that's just not possible.
But the whole point is moot. As these will be for individual languages, there is no reason at all to make them international and as it has already been pointed out, governments already do have standards they use in their countries.
As for your idea of doing it in 27 letters to fit a keyboard? Nope, sorry, the IPA has more characters than that...you are underestimating the amount of phonetic sounds out there...
Exactly why it will never gain acceptance on the "I" part of their name.
For example, the Welsh town of "Llanelli" (the double "l" is a diphthong in Welsh that, as far as I know, has no comparison in any other language...you place your tongue like an "l" sound but then exhale hard, pushing the air over your tongue...this creates, well, a kind of "Darth Vader breathing" sound...and, very often, a lot of spit flying out of your mouth...the Welsh master being able to say it without spitting on people but it takes practice ;)...
Heh. Do the Welsh live near a large body of fresh water?
I'll add to that: I think there is a native language of Shoeswap Indian that have a half dozen or so different ways of saying 'h'
Obviously, some sacrifices will have to be made. It's not possible to contain all possible sounds and maintain any sence of sanity.
Do we even dare approach the "clicking throat" sounds of Klingon?
Oh, and let's not forget Tolkein's creations. Sheesh.
27 keys, you say? No chance!!!
Use your imagination.
-- [kain] http://www.geocities.com/kahlinor .
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