Re: High Level Assembly (HLA)



Charles A. Crayne wrote:
be like if you'd had to put up with five years of
> :this.
>
> Oh, probably about the same as they are now. It's not that I don't feel the
> temptation to verbally grab someone by the scruff of the neck and shake
> vigorously, it's just that I have learned, over the years, that all it
> accomplishes is to lower oneself to the other's level.

I took that approach several years ago. After seeing the damage Rene as
done to assembly language, in general, and HLA and MASM in particular,
I said "no more." Keep in mind that I've spent 15 years teaching and
promoting the use of assembly language. Not just using it, actively
promoting it. I've spent a fair part of my life writing documentation,
books, etc., to further the use of assembly. Over the years, I've seen
my share of people who claim that assembly is dead, that assembly isn't
useful for anything, etc., etc., etc. The amazing part is that Rene, a
supposed "assembly language promoter" has done *far* more harm to the
assembly community than any of these other detractors have ever done.

Simply ignoring Rene doesn't work. Taking the "high moral road" doesn't
work. There are two alternatives - just give up and move on to HLLs and
abandon the support of assembly language, or fight back. And the
easiest way to fight back is to prod him into making the outrageous
claims he always does, keeping his credibility level at zero. It is sad
that I have to waste time doing this, but as I've said, I've tried on
several occasions to ignore him and that only emboldens him.
Conversely, the only thing that has shut him up has been a concentrated
effort to counter all his B.S. Other than banning him (not possible
here), keeping on his case is the only thing that works (that approach
worked quite well in the MASMForum, and when people gang up on him
around here, it chases him away for short periods of time).

It's sad all the bandwidth has to be wasted keeping him under control,
but it has to be done.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

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Relevant Pages

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