Re: Click...

snowman wrote:
> "Pop-star economics"

Just a few simple questions:

Where's the alcoholic repeated business failure's qualifications in
"macro-economics"? The guy who couldn't even run a baseball team? When he
did he suddenly become the world's greatest economic expert? Was it before
or after losing the ability to even run his own family in an alcoholic haze
(that his daughters seem to think is "norm", as they keep getting caught
trying to "copy Dad" and seem to have no comprehension of what's wrong in
them becoming a slave to the bottle in going binge drinking, when they ain't
even old enough...oh, yeah, he's been the perfect "role model" to his
family)? Has this guy run anything - business, family, etc. - with anything
that could approach being called "success"? Not so far he ain't...

Where's the so-so not-particularly-good lawyer's qualifications in
"macro-economics" (he was a consitutional lawyer, not any economic-based law
expert)? And if "lawyer" makes you expert, then why isn't his idiot wife -
who's more qualified in law than he - Prime Minister instead? Mr."focus
group" who has no opinions of his own, if they aren't clones of Maggie
policy...yes, regardless of the fact that she was _politically opposite_ to
the party he leads...that he leads into a fascist "Big Brother" police state
beyond Orwell's worst nightmares, where government decides absolutely
everything for the "citizen"...who is no longer a free man but very much a
number, whatever they protest from a funny coloured building in Port Meirion
running away from a large beach ball...

Where's the former KGB bully's qualification in "macro-economics"? Oh, he's
good at defending the former Soviets' secret treaty with Hitler to justify
neo-imperalist policies against countries that clear DO NOT WANT to be under
Moscow's rule anymore...he knows about "black propoganda" in taking control
over all the media, so that no political opposition gets any chance to
"advertise" their alternate vision of Russia...

At least the Parisian "bulldozer" has been a student or beareaucrat of
politics throughout his life that he might have some previous qualifications
in economics...though, as much of France considers his adminstration full of
"corruption" then maybe his opinion isn't worth much, anyway...

....and so on...and so forth...

Where's the G8 leaders' great qualifications in economics?

Truth is, _NONE_ (yes, including the "pop stars") of these people are
economists (perhaps worryingly)...

They, just like the celebrities being mocked, are simply winners of
"popularity contests" too...for having the "nicest sounding lies" and
promises that are never kept at elections...

Bush's qualification was having his father's name...

Blair's qualification was that John Smith died...

Putin's qualifications are in every single KGB "dirty trick" in the
book...like poisoning and disfiguring the now Ukrainian President to try to
get a Russia-friendly winner (it didn't work but it could have easily been
an assassination: Killing politicians in other countries simply to maintain
the former glory and control of the "Soviet Empire"? Sound like someone
you'd trust?)...or taking control of all the media just before the Russian
elections, so that you didn't even hear that there was any "political
opposition", while being bombarded with Soviet-style "black propoganda" to
vote for Putin...

Blah-blah-blah...


....ah, it's easy to make it "personal" with "pop stars", yeah? But if we do
the same with the G8 leaders, one finds that this group has so much
"corruption" flowing through its veins that the Maffia look "angelic" and
"legitimate businessmen" in comparison....yeah, you can "trust" them to take
the "moral" choice, rather than yet more stuffing their pockets with our
money until we eventually find out and kick them out...


While "pop star" Bob Geldof was a pop star in 1985...hasn't been one
since...because for the last 20 years, he surrendered any kind of career or,
to an extent, life, in order to devote himself to this one cause...who has
lived and breathed all the issues, met the people (both who are victims and
the leaders who perpertrate the crimes and all the economic and political
experts to discuss it with them) and such for those 20 years...possibly
sensing it would open him up for childish criticisms like this, he
surrendered his career to avoid the accusation that he was just doing it to
"publicise his career"...his career now _IS_ Africa...he uses his previous
"pop star" qualifications to arrange concerts and open doors and do whatever
he can...as would be remiss of him not to do if he has those "connections",
really...

Unlike any politician I've ever seen, Bob has _DONE_ what he says he's going
to do every single time...indeed, he saw a BBC news report (by Micheal
Burke) into the Eithopian famine in 1985...along with millions of others, I
saw that report too...but, of those millions, only Bob _DID_...and maybe he
didn't do it 100% right (over the years, they have acknowledged that the
"strategy" was wrong...which, by the way, is exactly _WHY_ it's different
this time around...basically, they were "patching" over problems...and now
the emphasis is on _CURE_...getting rid of the _CAUSES_ - which very much
_DOES_ include what we rich people are doing to them (so, pressuring the G8
to change their policy to Africa - and other places in extreme poverty -
makes one or two "causes" for their poverty vanish) - so that the problem is
_ELIMINATED_, not simply giving some aid - which does do good - but then the
problems come back around next year just the same as the year before)...he
_DOES_...the rest of you "critics" just talk...no wonder you are
_ENVIOUS_...no wonder you create "excuses" by which to make yourselves look
"superior" for _DOING NOTHING_ but talking...


_NONE_ of these people are economists - NEITHER the G8 leaders, as much as
the "pop stars" - and they all rely on asking the actual economists...the
actual NGO charities...yes, BOTH have saught out the "experts" to "look over
their figures"...so, who's "experts" can we trust more, is perhaps the
question...


By the way, one G8 leader has pledged serious commitment (though, he's a
well-known "promise breaker", so I won't hold my breath) in Tony Blair...and
he's taking it seriously because the facts and figures were shown to him and
all his economists who said it _WAS_ a valid plan...


Anyway, you're missing somewhat the point...the celebrities are the "face"
for the campaign because these are well-known "faces" that we all already
know...

The "Make Poverty History" / "One" campaign (just UK and US listed here but
it's a world-wide campaign) is a coalition - big and small - of the
following:

1990 Trust, 3E Foundation, Abaana, ACEVO, ACORD, Action Aid, Action Against
Hunger US, Action for Southern Africa(ACTSA), Action for Children in
Conflict, Action on Disability and Development, Action Village India,
ADRA-UK, Advantage Africa, AERDO (US), Afghanaid, Afghan Poverty Relief,
Africa 2000, Africa Bookcase-Gemini, AFRICA NOW, African HIV Policy Network,
African Initiatives, African Revival, The African Pulse Charity, AfriKids,
Allavida, Alive and Kicking UK, Alliances For Africa, ALOVE - the Salvation
Army for a new generation, Alpha International, American Jewish World
Service, AMICUS, AMREF (African Medical and Research Foundation), Anti
Apathy, Anti-Slavery International, APT Enterprise Development, The
Association of Guyanese Nurses and Allied Profesionals UK, artaid, Article
12 in Scotland, Arms Reduction Coalition, ASHA Foundation, Association of
University Teachers (AUT), ATD Fourth World, The Attlee Foundation, Azafady,
Bakers, Food & Allied Workers Union, The Balcraif Foundation, Banana Link,
The Baptist Union of Great Britain, The Baptist Union of Scotland, BECTU,
The Big Issue in Scotland, The Biotechnology and Biological Sciences
Research Council, Blythswood Care, Body & Soul, Bread for the World
Institute, Brighton Peace & Environment Centre, British Humanist
Association, British Province of Society of Jesus, The British Youth
Council, BMS World Mission, BOND, The Boy's Brigade, Book Aid International,
Bridges Development Education Centre, Bright Tomorrows, CADAni, CAFOD,
Caledonia Centre For Social Development, CAMFED, CARE International UK, CARE
USA, Cary-Mufulira Community Partnership Trust, Catholic Association for
Racial Justice, Catholic Bishops' Conference of England and Wales, Catholica
Institute for International Relations (CIIR), Catholic Women's Network,
Canolfan Addysg Byd, Canon Collins Educational Trust for Southern Africa,
Central America Women's Network, Centre for Global Education, Central
America Action, Chain of Hope, Child Advocacy International (CAI), Childhope
UK, Children in Crisis, Chiswick Churches for Trade Justice, Christian Aid,
Church in Wales, Christian Partners In Africa, Christian Engineers in
Development, Church of England, Church Mission Society, Church Mission
Society Ireland, Church of Scotland Guild, Christian Solidarity Worldwide,
Church World Service (US), Chronic Poverty Research Associate, Church of
Scotland Board of World Mission, Citizens for Global Solutions (US), Clouds
of Hope, CNC Chaplaincy, Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, Chartered Society
of Physiotherapy, Cheshire Development Education Centre, Chester World
Development Forum, Chicken Shed Theatre Company, Children on the Edge,
Churches' Commission for Racial Justice, Columbian Faith and Justice Office,
Comic Relief, Common Ground Scotland, Commonwealth Human Council (CHEC)
International, Commonwealth Youth Exchange Council, Compassion, Computer Aid
International, CONCERN (UK), Concern (US), Concern Worldwide, Concern
Universal, Congregational Federation, Connect, Conserve Africa Foundation,
Conscience, The Peace Tax Campaign, Consumers International, CORD,
Cross-Cultural Solutions, Cuts International, The Cred Foundation, DATA,
Development Education Association, Development Finance International Group,
Development In Action, The Development School, Dhiverse, Diana, Princess of
Wales Memorial Fund, Dig Deep for Bangladesh, East Kent Humanists, East
Midlands Network for Global Perspectives in Schools, ECPAT UK, Edo State
Women Association, End Child Poverty, Education Action International,
Edinburgh Global Partnership, Eglwys Presbyteraid Cymru, Eglwys Y crwyc
Caerdydd, Ekklesia, Elton John AIDS Foundation, Emmaus UK, Enery Action
Scotland, Engineers Against Poverty, Envision, Engagehivaids.com, The
Episcopal Church (US), Episcopal Relief and Development (US), EveryChild,
Evangelical Alliance, Excellent Development, The Fairtrade Foundation, Farm
Africa, Federsion of Student Islamic Society (FOSIS), Feed the Minds, Fire
Brigades Union, Find Your Feet, Focus Institute on Rights and Social
Transformation, The Food Chain, Food for the Hungry - UK, Forgotten
Children, Friends of the Earth Scotland, Friends of Kadzinuni, Friends of
the Earth, Frome Fairtrade Group, Tha Gambia Horse and Donkey Trust, Garden
Africa, Gender and Development Network, Girlguiding Highworth, Global
Campaign for Education UK Coalition, Glasgow Campaign to Welcome Refugees,
Global Care, Global Connections, Global Education Derby, Global Health
Council, Global Movement for Pakistani Renaissance (GMPR), The Global
Student Forum, GMB Trade Union, Greenbelt Festivals, Greenpeace, Grow Up,
Free From Poverty Coalition, Habitat for Humanity, Habitat for Humanity GB,
Habonim Dror UK, Handicap International UK, Harvest help, Health Unlimited,
Heartland Alliance (US), Heifer, Help The Aged, Homeless International, HOPE
HIV, HOPE UK, Hope Worldwide, ICA:UK, IDEAS (International Development
Education Association of Scotland), IDE-UK, Integrated Village Development
Trust, InterAction US, International Care and Relief (ICR), International
Childcare Trust, International Extension College (IEC), International
Medical Corps, International Network for the Availability of Scientific
Pubilcations, IMPACT Foundation, India Development Group UK, Institute for
International Health and Development - Queen Margareth University College,
Interact Worldwide, Inter-Cultural Youth Exchange (ICYE UK), International
Agency for the Prevention of Blindness (IAPN)- vision 2020, International
Health Partners UK, International HIV/AIDS Alliance, International
Metalworkers' Federation, International Network of Street Papers,
International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF), International Rescue
Committee, Intermediate Technology Development Group (ITDG), International
Broadcasting Trust, International Community of Women Living with HIV & AIDS,
International Health Partners UK, International Medical Corps UK,
International Rescue Committee, International Service, The Iona Community,
Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Islamic Aid, Islamic Relief, IThemba, Jae
Project, Jesuit Missions, Jesuit Volunteer Community, Jewish Council for
Racial Equality, Jigsaw4u, Jubilee Action, Jubilee Debt Campaign, Jubilee
Scotland, Just World Partners, Justice and Peace Scotland, Justice for
Colombia, Kaloko Trust, Kerala Federation for the Blind, Kimbuta Rural
Development Programme, Kingscare, Latin America Bureau, Latin America
Women's Rights Service, Lancaster University Students Union, Leicestershire
AIDS Support Services (LASS), Leicester Faith Support Group for Asylum
Seekers and Refugees, Lancashire Global Education Centre, Landmine Action,
Latin Link, Learning for Life, Learning Through, Action Trust, Leeds
University Union, Leicester Masaya Link Group, Leicester Social Forum,
Leonard Cheshire, The Lesbian and Gay Foundation, The Leprosy Mission:
England, Wales, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, Liberal Judaism,
Link Community Development, London Play, Loughborough Students' Union,
MaAfrika Tikkun UK, MAD Foundation, Mali Development Group, Mamie Martin
Fund, Manchester Aid to Kosovo, MANGO (Management Accounting for NGOs),
Mapuche International Link, Marie Stopes International, Maternity Worldwide,
MEDACT, Medical Mission Sisters, Medsin UK, Mercy Corps US, Mercy Ship UK,
Micah Challenge UK, Micro Loan Foundation, Millenium Campaign, Minorities of
Europe, Mission Aviation Fellowship, Mercy Corps Scotland, Methodist Church,
Methodist Relief & Development Fund (MRDF), Millennium Reachout Project, The
Mothers' Union, Montgomery Development Education Centre, Movement for the
Abolition of War, The Museum of Immigration and Diversity, Musicians' Union,
Muslim Association of Britain, Muslim Aid, Muslim Global Relief, Muslim
Hands, NASUWT, National Assembly Against Racism, National Board of Catholic
Women of England Wales, National Council for Voluntary Youth Services,
National Federation of Womens' Institutes, National Group on Homeworking,
National Justice and Peace Network (NJPN), National Union of Journalists
(NUJ), National Union of Students (NUS), National Union of Teachers,
Nationwide Group Staff Union, National Pensioners Convention, Nelson Mandela
Childrens' Fund, Nepal Leprosy Trust, New Consumer Magazine, New
Internationalist, Net Aid, NCVO, Nicaragua Solidarity Campaign, NICVA,
NIDOS, Norfolk Education and Action for Development (NEAD), Northern Ireland
Anty-Poverty Network, Oasis Trust, Ockenden International, One World Action,
One World UK, One World Trust, Omagh Community Church, One World
Broadcasting Trust, One World Week, Operation Agri BMM, Operation Blessing
International (US), Opportunity International UK, Orbis UK, Out of Africa,
OXFAM, OXFAM America, Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Panos Institute, Peace
Child International, People & Planet, People Tree, Pestalozzi International
Development Education Centre, Pesticide Action Network UK, PhotoVoice, Plan
UK, Plan USA, Play Association Tower Hamlets, Powerful Information, PRAXIS
Community Project, Project Hope UK, Pro-Natura UK, Prospect UK, Public and
Commercial Services Union (PCS), Quaker Peace and Social Witness, Quest
Overseas, REDR-IHE, Reform Corporation, Reform Synagogues of Great Britain,
ReSource, RESULTS, The Rights Practice, Riders for Health, Robin Hood
Ministries, ROPE (Relief for Oppressed People Everywhere), Rothamstead
International, Royal College of Nursing, Royal Society for the Protection of
Birds, Rugmark UK, Safehands For Mothers Charitable Trust, The Salvation
Army, SAO Cambodia, Save the Children UK, Save the Children USA, School
Councils UK / School Councils Networks, SCIAF, Scottish Catholic
International Aid Fund), Scottish Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, Scottish
Council for Voluntary Organisations, Scottish Episcopal Church, Scottish
Inter Faith Council, Send A Cow, Sense International, Sight Savers, Signpost
International, SIL UK, Simba, Shahmai Network, Shared Interest Society,
Shrewsbury Diocese Justice and Peace Commission, Skillshare International,
Smile International, Stamp Out Poverty, Sustainable Scotland Network, The
Society and the College of Raiodgraphers, Sojourners (US), Somerset
Fairtrade Network, South Asia Voluntary Enterprise (SAVE), The Southern
Africa Alpha Project, SPCK, SPEAK International, Spring Harvest, Stand Up
for Africa, St Mary & St Cuthbert's CYFA (Church Youth Fellowship
Association), Street Child Africa, Street Seen, St Ives for Asia, St
Margarets House, St Mary's Church Leamington, St Matthews Children's Fund
Ethiopia, Stop AIDS Campaign, Street League, Student Christian Movement,
Student Partnerships Worldwide, Student Volunteering England, Sunseed
Tanzania, Target Tuberculosis, TB Alert, Tearfund, Teesside One World
Centre, Terrence Higgins Trust, TIDAL, Time for God, Transformational
Business Network, The Tropical Health & Education Trust, The Training Trust,
Together for Peace, Tools for Self Reliance, Tourism Concern, The Toybox
Charity, Toynbee Hall, Trade Justice Movement, Trade plus Aid, TRAID,
Traidcraft, Transaid, Transport and General Workers' Union, Tree Aid,
Trocaire, TSSA (Transport Salaried Staffs' Association), Tsunami Relief
Cymru, TUC, Tzedek (Jewish Action for a Just World), UK Coalition of People
Living with HIV and AIDS, Ulster Teachers' Union, UNA Exchange, UNA - USA,
UNESCO UK TRUST, United Nations Association-UK, UNICEF UK, Union of Jewish
Students, UNISON, University of St Andrews One World Society, Unitarian &
Free Christian Churches, United Free Church of Scotland, United Reform
Church, The United Methodist Church (US), United Road Transport Union,
United Sikhs, University of Birmingham Guild of Students, University of
Bradford Union, The University of Warwick Students' Union, Urban Theology
Unit, USDAW, USPG, VetAid, Village Aid, Viva Network, Village-to-village,
Village Service Trust, Voice of Dalit International (VODI), Volunteer
Missionary Movement, VSO, Wales Council for Voluntary Action, Wales Fair
Trade Forum, War On Want, WaterAid, The Web of Hope, Wells for India, Welsh
Centre for International Affairs, Welsh International Sector, Welsh Refugee
Council, Western Sahara Campaign UK, Wishing Well, Womankind Worldwide,
Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, The Woodcraft Folk,
World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts, World Concern, World
Development Movement, World Emergency Relief, World Jewish Aid, World
Medical Fund, WORLDSHARE, World Vision UK, World Vision USA, WWF-UK,
Wycliffe Bible Translators, Young British Jesuit Alumni, Youth Empowerment
Training and Entrerprenuership (YETE), Y Care International, Yorkshire &
Humber Global Schools Association, Youth with a Mission......


Let me guess: "Funded by dictators"...??

Beth :|


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