Re: assembler worth learning?



smile,

> Yes, it *is* a matter of "resorting to assembly code"

This type of waffle may mean something when running portable code on a
PPC MAC but with a windows specific compiler, its nonsense. When a
language provides native support for assembler, there is no point in
not using it.

We all know the old trick of picking a learner example and benchmarking
against it but that works between any language, would you really want
to judge the ease and speed of your favourite compiler with a badly
written simplified example ?

I note te same comment as before, I posted finished binaries written in
mixed basic and assembler and no-one posted their alternative versions.

The runtime bloat is symptomatic of the problem of later C/C++, a
powerful language crippled by a bundle of garbage attached to it and
remove it and suddenly its harder to write than MASM. When a "kiddie
level bubble gum" basic compiler easily outperforms the C compiler to
the tune of 5k on a bare windows template, there is something wrong
with it.

We all know about how to write small runtimes but its even smaller with
NO runtime then you can use MASM libraries but with this much messing
around, MASM is a better proposition.

I am still fascinated with how later youngsters fail to understand
where te advantages with C lie, its in its capacity for very large
architecture at an operating system level, not its low level code
generation which is generally very ordinary, you algos run like your
messageboxes etc .... lousy RISC theory on a CISC processor and so on.

For true low level performance and a kick arse pre-processor, why
dabble with the rest when you can use the best, MASM. For higher level
development speed, reliability, flexibility, PB is hard to beat and its
results when properly written are more than fast enough for most things
and fast enough for the rest when you use its native assembler support.

You may not have the knowhow with dialects of basic which is your
choice but you are hardly in a position to coment on it when you cannot
ever write the language.

Regards,

hutch at movsd dot com

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Future for VC++ Programmers
    ... bluescreening the system (crash X windows). ... Especially the kind who speak their native language as a second ... I don't want an environment in which the compiler, the linker, and the debugger will, at ...
    (microsoft.public.vc.mfc)
  • Re: Difference between VC++ and UNIX
    ... It uses whatever compiler you have, in whatever language you like. ... like edit Lisp or integrate 3rd party compilers into Visual Studio. ... Windows, HP-UX, and Linux. ...
    (comp.programming)
  • Re: Visual C++ wont autcomplete?
    ... slow down the compiler). ... All you're really saying is that many existing Windows applications don't ... the full power of the C++ language ... ... Eclipse is much more than just an editor ... ...
    (microsoft.public.vc.mfc)
  • Re: Theodore Adorno, a prophet of data systems design
    ... >> the rip offs of his Altair Basic compiler) was a founding text because ... >> fashion that he needed to respect others' property rights. ... > Then you've never had to manage a network of Windows machines. ... It's not the fault of the language if people use it in ...
    (comp.programming)
  • Re: assembler worth learning?
    ... coding capcity built into the compiler. ... willing to compete against the benchmark for the finished compiled ... fact that masm ports to PB reasonably well and as the language natiely ...
    (alt.lang.asm)