Re: getting good at assembly language

Pinback wrote:

> Thanks for your reply btw. True, it won't make me a good coder, but
> writing such tools I don't think allows for sloppy design or coding
> practices, I could very well be wrong though, as I've seen some really
> crap code in my time. But I would want to learn best practice as much
> as the assembly language itself.

Trust me, you can very easily write a very sloppy assembler or
disassembler. A pretty good example of how NOT to do a whole lot of
things, including [dis]assembly and virtual machines, fetch a copy
of Bill Blunden's "Virtual Machine Design And Implementation in C/C++".


> Again true, a debugger would require a lot of good OS knowledge,
> therefore I feel if you can write a good debugger system, you've
> cracked the OS and can sit back relax, have a cup of tea and a biscuit
> and know that you are all masterful :-)

Well, not really :)

Under win32, there's a whole debugging API that makes life a lot
easier for you. Granted, writing something like www.ollydbg.de is
a lot of work, but you can get something simple going rather easy.
A kernel-mode debugger, however, is quite a different story.


>> What platform do you wish to learn assembly for? Dos/16bit,
>> windows/32bit, linux/32bit, windows/64bit, linux/64bit? :)
>
> Win32 and Linux, I use both extensively. It would be just nice to hit
> the hardware and learn much more of what is really going on. I
> haven't been coding for a long long time nearly 5 years now, so I
> need to ease myself in gently by getting stuck into assembler once
> again :-)

For win32, http://www.madwizard.org/dl.php?file=tutors.win32asm is
a good place to start. http://board.win32asmcommunity.net and
http://board.flatassembler.net are nice places as well. If you want
to use MASM, you can get it either "somehow from Microsoft" or from
www.masm32.com . For reasons that will be obvious if you check the
history of this group, I cannot recommend you to use the "masm32
library" nor use www.masmforum.com .

Have fun :)



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