Re: When caveman Uhg invented fire


Evenbit wrote:

Somehow, throughout history, mankind managed to change the way the clan
works and we now have three classes of society in this modern structure
we call civilization. One class is real: the hobby class. The other
two are artificial: the merchant/industry class and the academic
class. The merchant/industry class strives to meet the needs of the
masses but puts its own interests first. Inventions seem to arise from
the merchant/industry class. The purpose of the academic class is to
prepare members of the hobby class for participation in the
merchant/industry class. The academic class also seems to advance the
state of the art by way of inventions. The hobbyist simply invents.
In fact, all inventions come from the hobby class - because it is the
hobbyist that makes up the academic and merchant/industry class.
Without the hobby class, the other two classes simply would not exist.

I disagree actually; hate to be the first to do so.

Merchants/Industry today provide the tools necessary for the hobby to
create
new works. Frankly speaking, without the merchants/industry, we
wouldn't
have the computers built for us. And take it one step further, without
someone
selling the rouge computer parts to early hobbists, they wouldn't have
been
able to even build a computer.

If a given industry fails to please the public; if it isn't convenient
enough, or
better than "the normal way of doing things", the industry simply dies
off. For example,
Fax Machines in the early 90s. Some businesses were able to survive
by simply having a fax machine that you can send stuff too. Now-a-days,

the industry has long since died off; email and personal fax machines
have
long replaced normal Fax machines.

Industry provides the tools for hobbiests.

Yes; everyone hates the industry cause we can't live without them. But
simply put:
we can't live without them. Lest we wanna grow food in our back yards
ourself :-/
Or maybe create an Intel Chip ourself? No, sorry, it simply doesn't
work like that.

Basically: Without the merchants/industry, the hobbiests would be too
busy
farming, let alone inventing.

Academia provides "quick" knowledge; while you aren't the best
overnight in a subject, it is much faster to learn say, that Gravity is
9.8 m/s^2
rather than testing it yourself all the time. It is much more efficient
to say,
read a Physics textbook to learn Physics, than it is to try and do it
all
for yourself.

Basically; it is much faster to learn using books, education system,
and
so forth than to self-teach. No knowledge exists in a vaccum. In fact,
it
is impossible to teach yourself some subjects, including (2nd)
languages.

What I'm getting to say is: Hobbiests wouldnt survive without business,
and
hobbiests need more academics than you let on.

--Dragontamer

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