Re: I wonder who was stupid enough to hack the masmforum server ?

Betov wrote:
"santosh" <santosh.k83@xxxxxxxxx> écrivait news:1148752520.893732.156700
@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

We have had a case here in India, just a week back, which was reported
even in the leading national papers:

In a Monsanto-Mayhco, (the "Mayhco" is Monsanto's collaborator here),
"test" field growing GM crops, (BT-cotton), goats were reported to have
died in mass after consuming the crop. Some people were also reportedly
taken sick.

Of course, those goats *could* have died from other unrelated causes,
but it does affect the public perceptions of Monsanto.

Much probably because of the associated poisons, they sell
with the other hands.

So said, if people can be pushed to believe that GMO may kill
them, this is a very good thing (holly lie, so to say... :)

Farmers don't like the fact that they may become tied to a single
company, (which is not even a national one). Consumers are suspicious
of eating such "unnatural" food, especially when we produce more than
enough food the natural way.

Of course even for non-GM crops, chemical pesticides are a problem.
While Biopesticides are cumbersome and applicable only in some cases,
organic farming has remained a "niche" effort, simply because, the
average person can afford the amount of money needed to buy organic
food.

Ironically, we used to produce dirt cheap organic food just a century
back, (as in the rest of the world). It simply wasn't able to keep pace
with the population growth.

Mostly everyone, except Monsanto employees and other vested interests,
regard the company and it's venture in India as purely profit making.
Perhaps Monsanto believes people in under-developed countries can be
easily fooled. That's certainly true as far as the Goverment is
concerned. The people though seem surprisingly well informed, though
nowhere near the level required to ensure the best agricultural
interests on this country.

Yes. But i must say that, for what i have seen from here (france),
i am also extreemely impressed by the quality of the resistance
of simple idian farmers. The idian cultural background, maybe...

In most countries, except perhaps the USA, the majority are not in
favour of GM food. Only in the US it seems, the propaganda has
succeeded in "converting" the majority.

Mind you, even here we have plenty of cases of greedy farmers who would
gladly take to GM, but usually you find that they are "sponsered" by
some company or other. Some very poor farmers simply don't know
anything about the issue.

The Goverment of course, is chafing at the bit to be the best
"shoe-polisher" country after China.

As long as short terms _profits_ are the only concern, resisting
is very difficult. Here, there are always criminal farmers who
are "volonteers" to take the money, by providing their fields
for GMO experiments, and when the nature defenders go and destroy
the fields, they are driven to jail, with rather few public
reactions. When i see such things, i am amaized that we are not
in a civil war. Most people are so passive... :(

Same here. The few who protest are arrested while the majority is
worried only about their call-center jobs and films.

It seems that this country is especially addicted to films and
entertainment. It is all than anyone ever thinks about. The subtle
"drug" which the greedy and the goverment are pleased to keep doling
out to keep the masses morbidly contented.

I personally hate films and entertainment. It seems to me that the
natural world and the universe supply more entertainment than we can
take in, in a life time. No need for human created cheap substitutes.

Even with 1 billion people, it has so far been possible to produce more
than enough food by conventional hybridisation without resorting to
Genetic Engineering, thanks to the Green Revolution.

Even now, occasionally, thousands of tonnes of grain rot away in
Goverment granaries if the selling price is not profitable.
Distribution and percolation of the resources are the real issue and
this has more to do with human psychology than anything else.

Sure. What stucks me, here (ALA), is to find out participants
(supposed to have a working brain and all infos...), not even
understanding the importance of the problem.

What strikes me is this is representative of the very large majority of
humanity.
Oh well, what has to happen, has to happen, I suppose.

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