Re: Question about jumps


Betov wrote:

Clown, you should notice that if he had fallen into your traps,
he wouldn't even ask any such question, and would not even try
to understand how the Conditional Jumps effectively work.

What are you talking about?
You really don't understand the educational process at all, do you?


There is a price to pay for learning anything, and it is no use
to pay twice:

100% true. Which is why AOA/32 leverages existing programming knowledge
rather than making the person re-learn the basic material, such as
"what is a loop" or "what is a conditional used for" all over again.


* One for your absurd HLL Pre-Parser.

I don't have an "absurd HLL Pre-Parser", so I have no idea what you're
talking about.


* One for Assembly.

That would be what AoA/32 teaches.



Then, as long as you do not have any prerequisite knowledge about
what Assembly is,

You seem to be the guy that doesn't know what an assembler is.
And if you actually had any experience *teaching* people assembly
language, we'd probably see you *helping* people with their assembly
language questions around here rather than seeing you constant
criticize those who *do* help with questions.


you are not in a good position for teaching

I guess not. 10+ years of teaching assembly language at the University
level doesn't leave you in a good position, I suppose.

others how to do what you do not do.

I guess not. 10 years of trying different pedagogical methods to see
what works and what doesn't work leaves one in a position of not
knowing what works and what doesn't work.

You, OTOH, readily admit that almost no one subscribes to your
programming idealology and that people don't accept the way that you
think assembly language ought to be done. Yet you seem to think you are
an expert on how assembly language ought to be taught (or ought not to
be taught) to people. You might look at your constant failures in this
area and reevaluate your thinking on this matter.


You'd better teach them how
to write an HLL Pre-Parser in Flex, Bison, and C.

I've yet to meet anyone other than yourself who really *cares* what
language the assembler they're using is written in. This has zero
impact on their ability to use the product or to learn assembly
language by using it. As usual, you are far more concerned about
things that have nothing to do with assembly language education than
the important things that really count.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde

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