Re: Rene can't handle AoA's Success
On Jun 18, 2:18 am, Betov <b...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
You do very well with beginning your propaganda system on that
topic, clown, because, indeed, these small and easy Tutorials
will effectively be interesting, as a demonstration of the
value of their approach, that could, in some way be called an
------ HLA/AoA ------------ The Twelve Assembly Lessons -----
Megas of Pdf Very short materials
comprhensive inconsistent and incomplete
You clearly have no idea what these terms mean as neither term really
applies to either approach.
Text + HLL Simple Assembly
Text + assembler Not simple at all.
+ leveraging existing knowledge The first lesson, for
+ lots of examples example uses many
instructions with no
Absurd home made Syntax Generic Assembly Syntax
Well-thought out syntax, You call RosAsm "generic"
based on experience with assembly syntax? Ha!
100s of students.
HLA dedicated only Any Assembler dedication
Absolutely. No confusion Total BS. It teaches RosAsm
that way. syntax and tries to teach
a hodge-podge of other syntaxes
simultaneously. Very confusing.
No pedagogic method Debugger interactions
Obviously, you have no idea what the term "pedagogy" means.
HLL Pre-requises No Pre-requize
Absolutely. BS. You, yourself, have
said that the reader
must read the Intel
manuals and B_U_ASM
*first*. And if you
think that this is
Bottom line is that your tutorial doesn't come close to teaching
*assembly language*, much less *programming*. If you think an absolute
beginner to programming can learn assembly language programming from
your tutorial, well, you don't know much about what beginners need, do
... Not talking of the so easy port of the Twelve Assembly
Lessons to any National language, that will start as soon
as the last proof-reader will be over with his job...
Well, yes, "porting" something that is small to other languages is
easier than porting a more complex set of tutorials.
BTW, you do realize that AoA has been translated to about a half-dozen
or more languages by now, don't you? Off the top of my head, I can
remember Polish, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean. IIRC there was one
other slavic language translation and I think there was an Italian
translation. You can check out the publisher's web site for more
So, clown, you will indeed have to invent new arguments for
your propaganda, against this collective effort, that will
much evidently attract more beginners than your megas of
You talk the good talk trying to sell yourself and your project. But
time will tell how successful you really are. Good luck.
will want to read later, for further specific studies.
Considering that the various Assemblers around - with
their particular syntaxes - could also take advantage
of these Tutorials, we have written them in a kind of
"generic syntax" (not the RosAsm specific one),
BS. You cannot run the tutorials on any other assembler. And you're
constantly sticking in RosAsm-specific syntax throughout. Even your
"generic" syntax isn't transportable to other assemblers.
the beginner could, later, switch, with as few problems
as possible, to the Assembler he will finally choose,
as the best matching with the kind of developments, he
means to achieve, whatever particular details of the
As noted in a different post, switching syntaxes is *trivial* for most
people. Regardless of which assembler they've started with and which
one they end up with.
Been there, done that. "Funny" is a better term. As time passes, I
As it says, Master Pdf: Have fun.
think you'll discover that what I've said about your tutorials is
absolutely correct. You're going to discover that few beginners are
going to find them to be of much use. They require too much external
knowledge and once the reader possesses that knowledge, they don't add
much to it.
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