Re: Blair, another one bites the dust !


"hutch--" <hutch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ratch,

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They usually say that the people are ahead of the politicians when
it comes to politics. In this case, the politician (Blair) is ahead of
the people. He recognized early on the threat and annoyance of
allowing Sadamn to stay in power, and assisted the US in removing
Sadamn.
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High school debating techniques will not help you here, for you to
make any of these assertions you will need to deliver proof and this
you have always been unwilling to do. With an international audience
you are not preaching to the faithful here, you need to deliver the
proof of what you assert or be seen as producing irrelevant political
dogma for domestic consumption.

Does anyone deny what I said above? It is you who have called the
former PM a bad name. What assertion that I made do you have a problem
with?


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Many in the US appreciate his ten years of service. No one can take
you up on your offer of impeachment, Hutch. A sitting president can
only be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. Then there has to
be a trial by the Senate presided over by the Chief Justice of the
United States. What charge did you have in mind Hutch? Remember, it
has to be a violation of the law, not a bad judgment or leadership.
Ratch
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1. Trick E. Dicky was impeached. Yes it can be done.

You need a refresher course in history. Tricky Dicky resigned and then
was pardoned. He was never impeached. Prexy Clinton was impeached,
remember?
http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Clintonimpeach.htm


2. Fabricating evidence and using that evidence to deliberately
mislead Congress and the Senate to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan
are among other things the grounds to impeach.

Now it is you that should prove to this international audience your
assertion.


3. Congress is full of grounds for impeachment but short on the
motivation to keep their electoral promises to the American people to
end the war.

What does that mean? Impeach who?


4. Herein lies the problem in the approach Ratch is taking when it
comes to defending Bush, the criterion he exercises when it comes to
evidence to convist Bush of his crimes against the US are unreasonably
high and in the form of information that can easily be censured by
Bush and his co-conspirators. Both Bush and Cheney are well known for
their secrecy and refusal to legally deal with either the Congress and
Senate.

Evidence should be high and solid. If it existed, ways can be found to
exploit it. There are lots of people looking to do so, but it seems they
cannot find good solid evidence.


5. The mechanism for a dictatorship in the US are already in place.
(a) Declare an ill defined war that will never end.

Of course the Iraq war that was not managed well will end. All wars
do.

(b) Exercise Presidential war powers for the duration of the war that
will never end.

Yeah, sure. Do you really believe that?


6. Anyone for a tea party ?

I don't drink tea.


Regards,

hutch at movsd dot com

PS: The basics have not changed yet. The level of publically available
information in the following categories is overwhelming.

1. Bush lied to start a war.

Often asserted, never proven.

2. Young Americans are dying in this war for no purpose. (3500 and
rising)

Got rid of Sadamn, reason enough just for that.]

3. The US economy is in a shambles funding two unwinnable wars.

Laughable, what planet do you live on?

4. US national security is being compromised by its debt level to
foreign countries.

They better hope the US pays up. The smart money seems to think the US
will, otherwise they would not extend any more credit. Ratch


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