Re: Usenet


"Evenbit" <nbaker2328@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Usenet, the last free place, is in danger!

Obsolete since '93... Like Telenet, dialup BBS', FidoNet, BITNET,
Gopher,
telnet, ftp, etc. Replaced by html based Internet forums.

People are still writing telnet clients and it is still bundled with
modern OSen, so that can be an indication that it is still useful.
Those old BBS things simply "adapted to the times" by adding telnet
support -- check this out:
http://www.dmine.com/telnet/

I'm not sure, but I 'think' you can still do FidoNet via Internet
hubs:
http://www.writebynight.com/fidoviainternet.htm

Also, it looks like RelayNet and EchoMail are still operational:
http://www.relaynet.org/
http://www.intelec.com/

And I bet the usage rate of FTP is more than you think!


My post was humor, but it was making a point.

I use ftp quite a bit, but I was introduced to all those prior to the http
Internet boom. Those who came after aren't very likely to use those older
methods, i.e., "obsolete."

Technology rarely dies completely: newspapers, telegraph networks, horse and
buggy. You still see horse and buggy at every tourist spot. Old telegraph
networks are used to send other data (i.e., wire transfers). And, even
though .pdf's and websites have basically made books and newspapers
"obsolete" it's still a very large and competitive business (see Rupert
Murdoch).

Have you ever tried to pay for food at a fast food restaurant, like Taco
Bell, with an "obsolete" American coin, like the Susan B. Anthony dollar
from around 1980, with a cashier who is only 15-20 years old (i.e., he/she
has never seen one...)? They'll try to tell you it's a quarter...

It's kind of like the reverse situation of Dungeon and Dragons in America.
Someone here was recently trying to figure out what 1d20 is. If you ask
someone over 40, or slightly younger, in America, very few, if any will know
what multi-sided dice are. They were born too early for D&D.

Anyway, I'm quite aware that telnet is useful, but it's limited compared to
other protocols and lacks security. One former employer (acquired by a
Fortune 500 company) used dedicated serial rs-232 which was converted to
ethernet TCP/IP using telnet from PC's with terminal emulation software.
Another smaller employer used dedicated rs-485 terminals (not telnet
though).


Rod Pemberton

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  • Re: query on password
    ... Telnet is obsolete and insecure. ... You should start using ssh. ...
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  • Re: Usenet
    ... telnet, ftp, etc. Replaced by html based Internet forums. ... but I 'think' you can still do FidoNet via Internet ... And I bet the usage rate of FTP is more than you think! ...
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