Re: Blair, another one bites the dust !


"Scott Waters" <jascwa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ratch" <watchit@xxxxxxxxxxx>

I like your email address.

Thank you.


What events are those?

Those in the news. Subpeona's blocked, logs destroyed, etc. You know
the drill.

Subpeona blockage is a legal procedure. And some logs can be legally
destroyed.


Executive priviledge exists for a reason.

In this case, yes - keeping them from being exposed, right? Kinda
like in the Nixon Watergate days.

No, to keep presidential advisors from being held accountable for the
advice they give him. It is a lawful privilege.


It can be broken for good cause.

What exactly can be broken?

The withholding of information such as records or transcripts that the
executive branch used to decide an issue.


Getting rid of evidence to conceal a crime is risky because it can
be prosecuted..

It can be prosecuted if it can be proven. It can be proven if there
is evidence. But alas, there can be no evidence, because there is
executive priviledge. See MC Hammer lyrics - "U Can't Touch This" -
Perhaps they should use that as the theme song at the GOP convention.

No one can break the shield just on suspicion or desire to go on a
witch hunt. Other independent evidence has to be obtained and evaluated
before a subpoena will be issued. I don't pay much mind to what a rock
singer croons.


Not just to GOP.

Right now, that's where all the evidence points - When you have
Hassert (Speaker) & crew protecting and defending Foley (Pedophile) -
it's not to difficult for the average American like myself to draw my
own conclusions about the severity of issues were discussing.

Big Pig Hassert (former Speaker) is one of many assholes who defended
Foley, the Florida ***. In former times, others defended Gerry Studds
when he was playing with the pages. Yes, people like yourself should be
disgusted with members of both parties for tolorating such behavior for the
"good" of their party.


Just about everyone in political power has something to hide.

Possibly because everyone is human. Honestly the Bill and Monica
thing really didn't phase me that much. But Foley - that was a big
big boom boom, right in the middle of the halls of Congress.

They both brought disgust on themselves, and disgrace to their
respective offices, whether you thought it was a big deal or not.


Until a strong independent political investigative bureau (not the
FBI) comes into being, it will continue business as usual.

Great another level of bureaucracy - the head of which is appointed by
the President, right?

No, especially not a political appointment. No foxes in the hen house.

In either case, I referred to the DOJ as being
corrupt, of which the FBI is but a finger. Probably the thumb.

Yes, Janet Reno shielded and protected Clinton by refusing to
investigate accusations of bribery and influence pedaling. Especially the
fund raising scandal, where the Chinese were accused of contributing to his
war chest.


The corruption exists in other legislative bodies throughout the
world too.

I don't live around the world, but thanks for the information.

Resurrecting someone from 250 years ago is going to do what to
solve problems in the present world?

Simple. I would trust the framers of the Constitution to suspend that
which they felt was being abused by a system which they themselves
paid dearly to ensure could never occur here in the US. And yet, here
we are.

You cannot write a constitution that cannot be abused. It is up to the
people not to let that happen.


No one is required to testify at his/her trial, so no truth or
falsehood need be uttered. Telling lies is not a capital offence

That's the beauty of it. The framers could make that determination.
Since the current administration dispenses with this article or that,
I'm sure the framers would see fitting to return the favor. Then
telling lies under oath could be a capital offense for our capital
offenders. I'm quite certain Libby knew he'd never see the
inside of a jail cell long before he went to trial. But if he knew he
would be facing the gallows, I'm pretty sure he would have sang like a
song bird.

Strange how people who talk about and admire the Constitution advocate
measures that only Sadamn or his ilk could make happen.


Hemp was grown and used during WWII. Trouble is, a field of
industrial hemp looks just like a field of drug hemp. It takes a
sophisticated lab to tell the difference.

Do tell. A sophisticated lab, really? I would think that the
difference between Ragweed and Maui-Wowi would be rather obvious.

I know what ragweed looks like, and it sure does not look like hemp.
As far as I know, no one smokes ragweed either. I know nothing about
Maui-Wowi. What is the connection?


Those problems are well known, and will probably be heavily
scrutinized by the losers. Expect recording printers to be
required.

And the comfort in that expectation lies where. Could you provide
some technical justification for implying that having a recording
printer should alleviate my concerns as a voter?

Sure, volatile memory is an electronic magic slate. A printer makes a
permanent record. See the difference?


I mean McDonald's gives me a receipt and a printed grill ticket which
says I ordered a Quarter Pounder with NO PICKLES, and yet I open the
box and there's my Quarter Pounder WITH PICKLES on it.

It shows you were not charged for the pickles. If you operated the
machine which records your vote, as you will do, then look at the printed
record afterwards, that should alleviate your fears.


Anyway, as a programmer, I'm fairly certain that I can prove, that you
can't prove, that my vote will be accurately counted. But please, do
attempt to alleviate my concerns.

See above. Keep in mind there are plenty of ways for non-electronic
voting to be abused also. That is why voting judges are present from each
partiy.

Anyway, I haven't been to the Circle Pines area lately - how's the
weather there?

Nice and cool for two days now, but hot and humid for several days
before that. Ratch


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