Re: Blair, another one bites the dust !


"Jim Carlock" <anonymous@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ratch" wrote:
: I only have five senses, and they are all physical.

Most normal people have more than 5 senses. Which ones are
you lacking?

All, except the five you listed below.

Consider all of the following senses...

1) Vision
2) Hearing
3) Touch
4) Smell
5) Taste

Now the two that rarely get taught...

6) Memory, it's a valid sense that can cause things like an
adrenaline rush and pain.

That is not the definition of a sense. The stimuli is not the sense,
the detection of the stimuli is.

Some might argue that those are not
real feelings.

Feelings yes, sense no.

However, when your heart speeds up and the loss
of another sense occurs because of a certain chemical pushed
through the body (you lose the sense of touch when you get one
of those adrenaline rushes and someone could really smash your
face hard and you will not feel until the next day).

Of course you will feel it. But you might ignore the pain easier.
What has that to do with whatever sense?


7) Balance is a valid sense.

Balance is being able to control your body's center of gravity. It is
a skill that is self taught, and not a sense.

Just because it's in the ear doesn't
mean that your ears are limited to hearing.

Balance is made possible by proprioception from other organs besides
the ears. As I said before, it is a skill, not a sense.


8) Fear could be a sense. But I think it ends up as a reaction to
the sense of memory, and then it tends to create the adrenaline
rush (which dims some senses and possibly heightens other senses).

Fear cannot be a sense, it is a feeling or stimuli.


9) When you eat a hot pepper, is it the sense of touch that creates
the pain? Or is it actually another sense (another sort of chemical
reaction)? I hesitate to list this, but if it actually occurs because of
another chemical reaction, then so be it, it's a valid sense.

No it is the pepper oil reacting with the taste buds and sensitive
membranes of the mouth and throat. It is a chemical reaction that involves
over stimulating taste and touch. That means pain.


What does the sense of that fluid in the ears create? When you go
round and round and round, most definitely feel that special feeling
known as dizzy! Dizzy is the name used to describe the feeling.

So, what is the point?


Then there's ways the mind tricks you and automatically corrects
senses. Did you know everything you look is upside down in your
eyes?

Yes, and also reversed with respect to left and right.

It's not really a sense, is it?

What are you talking about? Vision? Certainly it is.

The mind realizes that something
is not right and retrains itself to show you everything right side up!

No it does not, The visual nerves are wired to correct for the inverted
reversed image.

Now if the mind has that much power to "automatically correct"
and "hide" the reality without you even knowing about it, it means
that the mind itself has special senses that help you out.

Tilt! Bad assumption. A physiological fix is not the same as mind
correction.

That dizzy
feeling gets felt in the mind and most likely no where else, although
that brings up another issue, the feeling of gravity. When you spin
round and round your whole body tends to feel things, especially
if your hand are out stretched. You'll feel things like blood rushing
to the outstretched fingers (typically called the sense of touch).

So, what is the point?

Anyways, the human mind has more than 7 senses. Many more,
but perhaps your mind hides everything and you do not feel the
other senses.

What are they?


I'm not sure what to call a hangover or how to define that. But it's
a special sense.

A symptomatic response.

Getting drunk is a special sense.

Nope, no more than climbing a tree is.

Smoking dope
provides a special sense I think. I don't know about that one. Some
say it makes you hungry. And if there's something else in the the joint
perhaps you experience PCP or whatever mushroom was put into it.

I would not know about that, but I don't think so. I will leave it to
your extensive experience with those things to describe the event. I would
think it is just another symptomatic expression of distorted reality. And
the point is?


Then there's drugs like caffeine. If one stops drinking coffee for a day,
there's something called a headache. But what sense is that in reality?
It's different! I know that sense myself and many other folks know it
too.

A physiological withdrawal symptom. Very real and painful. As the
point is?


So if the mind is dimming certain senses all the time, does that mean
you do not sense them? Sometimes it takes a concious effort to feel
things.

For the five senses, I get responses from them all the time with
various degrees of acuity. I cannot comment on all the extra senses you
claim to have.


Allergies produce reactions in many people. What sense is that?

Depends on what the reaction is. Again is it a symptomatic response.

It's
something in the lungs(?) or in the blood(?) and the body reacts!
Sometimes the reaction can kill a person.

So, what is the point?


A lizard gets it's tail cut off and it grows a new tail.

So, what is the point?

A sense occurs due to a chemical reaction

That is not saying anything profound. The whole body is a
electro-mechanical-chemical machine.

and the mind trains itself
to recognize certain conditions.

It is called learning.


But what about things that do not
have a mind?

Yes, what about them.


A tree loses a branch and grows some more branches.

And the point is?


The sun starts sinking to the south and the leaves start turning south.

Phototropic response.


Have you ever watched a sunflower during the day? The leaves start
off pointing east in the morning and then as the sun moves across the
sky, the direction the leaves point changes. Yes, sunflowers sense
things!

No kidding? So what? Ratch


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