Re: Twelve Assembly Lessons

smile,

This is bullsh*t, MASM, TASM, GNU as.exe (GAS) and NASM were all available
at the time.

No. NASM was not ready, nobody ever wrote something real with
GAS, at that time, and TASM was very difficult for Win32.

This is bullsh*t, I used NASM in 1996 and it has changed very little
since. With TASM, spare us the bullsh*t and look on the distribution
disks for working win32 GUI assembler.

No. They used MASM because there was nothing really usable, else.

Tell us something new.

Link, please?

To what ? Do your own research.

No, Test Departement wrote *with* MASM. Not *for* MASM.

Spare us the bullsh*t. This is from TD's 1st MASM32 tutorial.

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;==============================================================================
; Test Department's WINDOWS 32 BIT x86 ASSEMBLY
TUTORIAL'S 000
;==============================================================================

;==============================================================================
; ==> Part 000 : the basic stuff about windows 32 bit x86 assembly
; NOTE : PROGRAM BELOW ONLY STARTS AND EXITS IMMEDIATELY !!!
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; I don't like proc and invoke statements, everything here is pure
assembler !
; Muchas gracias and my best wishes flys to: Iczelion, _HaK_, _masta_
; I learn most of this stuff from your tut's ...
; This tutorials are written for MASM32 package and will work well
with it.
; You can get MASM32 via ==> http://www.pbq.com.au/home/hutch/masm.htm

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* All of the efforts of the Win32 Assembly pioneers were about making
the development of Applications in Assembly a possible thing.

Bullsh*t, MASM made win32 assembler a reality

Never. It was a complete failure, because it is close to impossible
to write anything significative with MASM. Proof: You cannot
provide any link to anything.

www.masm32.com The current masm32 distribution is written in masm32.
With MASM being the industry standard you don't have to prove it, you
just use it.

Neither did you know or work with any of the pioneers.

Several Demos of Ron Thomas (screen savers, mainly), and
several Demos of Test Departement (TooBars, Stacks, and so
on...) have been written in collaborations. The reason why
the same first hand demos were made available for SpAsm, at
the same time.

Neither TD nor Ron Thomas needed your collaberation, both being MASM
authors they wrote their code with no reference to you or your
attempts at an assembler.

Right. Test Departement was not wanting to rewrite all of
his works, once again. He was just facing his own failure
at pushing further, and did not understood really the reason
why he was having those difficulties (MASM).

This is bullsh*t, TD simply retired. He wrote in a style that was not
well suited to write large applications where MASM has all of the
mechanisms in libraries, procedures and the like to build anything you
like.

Forget rewriting history, not only were you NOT there but the few who
would have anything to do with you were not there either.

.

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