Re: Named parameters

From: Kevin Bracey (kevin.bracey_at_tematic.com)
Date: 10/30/03


Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:58:54 GMT

In message <bnrljd$la1$1@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>
          Joona I Palaste <palaste@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote:

> Adam Ruth <owski@hotmail.com> scribbled the following:
> > Jack Klein <jackklein@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<6r61qvcm58g0nji009veg0av982c9shmpc@4ax.com>...
> >> On 29 Oct 2003 19:35:21 -0800, owski@hotmail.com (Adam Ruth) wrote in
> >> comp.lang.c:
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > [snip...]
> >> > Adam Ruth
> >>
> >> It has been discussed occasionally, on the newsgroup where it is
> >> topical, namely news:comp.std.c, which discusses the past, present,
> >> and future ANSI/ISO/IEC standard for the language. It is not really
> >> on-topic here, where the topic is the C language as it actually is.
>
> > I see the "this is off-topic" comment enough in this group to wonder
> > why that hasn't been put in the FAQ. Perhaps the name of the
> > newsgroup should change to be a bit more explicit about its topic.
>
> What, comp.lang.c isn't enough to tell you that this newsgroup is
> about the computer language C?

No need to get sarky.

> It's really rather easy to figure out, once you grasp the idea that
> Usenet newsgroup names are parsed in a strict left-to-right fashion.
>
> comp: something about computers
> comp.lang: something about computer languages
> comp.lang.c: the computer language C

I think the point is that in the absence of an official charter, there
is an implicit ".iso-standard" at the end of "comp.lang.c", leaving anything
even vaguely system-specific or only partially portable without a home.
Most other comp.lang.* groups aren't that intolerant.

I mean, for example, what newsgroup would you discuss some detail of the EDG
compiler in? In the absence of a specific newsgroup, normal Usenet etiquette
would suggest comp.lang.c to be the closest match. My point is that it's no
use shouting "off-topic" at posters if you haven't got somewhere better for
them to go. And I don't really believe that more general groups like
"comp.programming" are better for something that is C-related.

As for suggestions about things that could be added to C, surely it's
reasonable to start the discussion in comp.lang.c? It's not as though the
original poster was necessarily wanting to launch straight into the
standardisation process.

Sometimes I get the feeling that a lot of the regulars only come here to
be unpleasant to newcomers and score pedantry points off of each other.
More than the Usenet average, I mean. Couldn't we hive off all the pedantry
to comp.lang.c.standard or something?

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