Re: [OT] Re: Asking if elements in struct arre zero
From: Mark Gordon (spamtrap_at_flash-gordon.me.uk)
Date: 11/08/03
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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:52:51 +0000
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:42:46 -0500 (EST)
"Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <ajo@nospam.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Keith Thompson wrote:
<snip>
> > The content of what I write
> > is what's important (or unimportant, as the case may be). If you
> > want to use a newsreader that lets you read it in your favorite
> > font, feel free; I'm not interested in adding extraneous formatting
> > information.
>
> In fact, I'm willing to bet that *some* news archive out there
> on the Web will do that sort of trivial formatting for you.
> ISTR that Google automatically hyperlinkifies URLs in Usenet
> posts, although it doesn't go so far as to edit in *bold* <b>
> tags or /italic/ <i> tags. (That's a good, tractable AI problem
> right there.)
I've used at least one news reader which *did* apply *bold*, /italic/,
_underline_ and possibly other mark ups and did a good job of it. So
people who want such things have the option of choosing a news reader
that supports them *without* causing problems people who do not want
them.
> <snip>
> > > What drawbacks? Seriously. Given the ability to drop into mono
> > > anytime you want/need to, what drawbacks are there that would
> > > outweigh the obvious benefits (benefits enjoyed by just about
> > > every single technical manual, book or magazine you've ever read).
> >
> > Just about every single technical manual, book, or magazine I've
> > ever read was produced by professionals. Just about every Usenet
> > posting I've ever read was not. Look at how much trouble we have
> > with posters not following the simple plain text standards we have
> > now. I don't want to give the trolls the ability to shout at me in
> > 36-point blinking magenta wingdings.
>
> ***HEAR HEAR!***
>
> (See, couldn't that have been a hell of a lot more annoying
> in HTML?)
> Nor do I really want to give spammers the ability to count hits
> on Usenet postings, like HTML mail has given them the ability to
> count hits on private email.
Of course, a sufficiently dumb rendering engine (i.e. one that does not
follow links) solves that problem.
> I suspect that HTML will never make it into Usenet. Those
> interested in making their correspondences look pretty are
> usually simply not interested in public discourse.
It can also make things look a lot messier what person A formats one way
then person B replies but formats the stuff s/he writes differently then
person C chooses yet another style...
I've seen it on web forums where simple markups are possible and IMHO it
makes it harder to read. One of many reasons I stick with Usenet rather
than web forums.
-- Mark Gordon Paid to be a Geek & a Senior Software Developer Although my email address says spamtrap, it is real and I read it.
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