Re: The Harm of hard-wrapping Lines



On 27 Apr 2005 23:31:35 GMT, roberson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Walter
Roberson) wrote:

>In article <t670715drc0bclj3ku64pjfqr9j0atfs7l@xxxxxxx>,
>Mark McIntyre <markmcintyre@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>by convention, groups not prefixed with a national identifier such as
>>de, fr, etc are considered to be english language groups unless their
>>charter states otherwise. As with any unmoderated group, there's
>>nothing to enforce this except common sense.
>
>I use a completely different convention. My convention is this:
>
> If someone posts in a language other than English in a
> newsgroup that is not specifically chartered for English, then
> that person is restricting the number of people who are likely
> to have the time and knowledge to answer them.

Also, they, and whoever chooses to answer, are withholding knowledge
from group participants who cannot read the articles. This should be
discouraged for the same reason that asking for a reply by private
email is discouraged.

>One might advise
> them of this, but one should otherwise leave them alone [unless
> one can answer.]
>
> The situation is no different than if you are in a bus/ train/
> airplane and nearby people start talking in another language.

It is different. Suppose you are at a round-table technical
discussion, and a couple of the participants start using a language
that no-one else understands, presumably on the topic of the
roundtable. It would be considered rude, at the very least. That's a
closer analogy, IMO.

> If they aren't obviously trying to include you, then
> they aren't talking to you. Which is fine, considering that
> most threads pretty quickly turn into one person talking to
> another person without a care as to whether anyone else is
> paying attention.

Not true, at least in this newsgroup. This is easily verified by
noting the number of participants in even the longest threads.

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
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