Re: C vs. C++ vs. Java

On 2006-02-20, santosh <santosh.k83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Richard G. Riley wrote:
On 2006-02-18, santosh <santosh.k83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
priyasmita_guha@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Start with C go on to C++ and then on to JAVA.
And you will C what how that helps.

The OP's question is not topical to this group. It would be better
answered in comp.programming among others.

Please try to redirect off topic questions rather than answering them
here.


It is a perfectly valid question to ask C Programmers : many of whom
will have experience in a wide array of other languages.

The regulars here, (naturally excluding me), strongly prefer, (and
rightly so, I must say), that this group remain devoted to the
discussion of the C langauge, as specified by it's standards.

The regulars do not own the group and do not own usenet posting
standards. Having said that I agree that decency and "standards" need
to be maintained. Noone would disagree.

It would take a complete idiot to suggest that asking C programmers
how their language stacks up against Java & C++ for beginners is "off
topic" for a C language newsgroup. It might, of course, be a bit
biased though :) ...

There are questions all the time about algorithms too : algorithms are
not "C Language". So lets not get our knickers in a twist here over a
perfectly innocuous post.


Access to NNTP servers and newsreaders have now been rendered
unneccessary, to those willing to use it, by Google's Web interface.
This has resulted in a large number of posts from newbies, both to the
language and to newsgroups in general, from around the world. They tend
to carry over their SMS and Chat crypticisms and post questions which
would be better answered elsewhere, due to their inexperience and
flippancy.

I dont doubt it. But immitation is the sincerest form of
flattery. People learn quick enough. For those persistent types then
there is the killfile. We were all newbies once. And if the people who
feel that is their job to patrol the posts dont like it then there are
always administered forums where their luminance can shine brightest
and undimmed by slightly "OT" posts or newbies using googlegroups.


Thus, for their own benifit, and to help them avoid getting flamed or
ignored, they are redirected and informed. In this regard CBFalconer
and Keith Thompson are particularly active. I reply very ocassionally
to a newbie or two, especially when no one has already replied to
them.

When redirection is valid. In this case it is not IMVHO. Had I felt I
had nothing to offer I would have ignored the post. Had it asked about
Java data types I would have sent them -------> thataway.


Answering questions on a wide variety of topics would result in
comp.lang.c turning into a congested, free-wheeling, Roman Circus,
blunting it's focus and eroding it's usefullness.

Answering a question on the validity of C over the other two for a
newbie is not OT for a C language newsgroup. And, of course, it also
gives a good chance for C advocacy....


But then I hate Java with a passion :)

I concur wholeheartedly :)


:)

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