Re: emacs, linux and C



Richard G. Riley wrote:
On 2006-02-23, Arndt Jonasson <do-not-use@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Maybe the question could be seen as proper to comp.lang.c since it is
connected with programming in C, but as I see it, the problem is that
many helpful answers wouldn't be. The answer might be "Yes, use
blubbglob.el from this elisp site" and then someone else wants to be
helpful and says "I use these modifications" and now we have elisp
code in comp.lang.c, which is decidedly off-topic. Then it would have
been better to ask the question in the forum where the whole
discussion would be on-topic.

Like which NG? My whole issue with "the usual suspects" who are now in
my killfile or I'm in theirs was that I had no place asking this
question here. It is still my contention they are full of it. I got my
answer here. And I would ask the same question here. Nothing I have
seen has altered my opinion of this : this is a resource about the C
language and C programmers hang out here.

So a guy who has never been there before walks into
services in his local temple and pulls out his
megaphone. He then shouts "I need someone to
explain the Sermon on the Mount to me?". A friendly
Rabbi comes over says "You've got the wrong place.
We don't study that here. There is a Christian
church across the way where there are people
who can explain it properly." The guy bellows
belligerently "Who are you to tell me what to say
and where to say it? This is like a church,
ain't it? You study religion, don't you? Somebody
here must know the answer. And I'm not leaving
until somebody tells me. And besides all religions
basically are the same and Christianity is just an
extension of Judaism and I don't care if you've
done it this way for 4000 years and I'll damn well
discuss it here if I want to!"

Yeah, analogy is slippery. And yes, the whole thing
has the flavor of a religious war, repeated endlessly,
perhaps why I used a religious analogy.

The initial answers to your message(by Ben Pfaff and
Keith Thompson) seemed perfectly appropriate to me. Even
CBFalconer's post seemed reasonable (he tends to be a
bit more abrasive IMHO). I think you over-reacted. I've seen you
post reasonably enough in other threads,
so you hardly seem like a troll to me.

I for one appreciate the group as it mostly is -- focused on
portable C as defined by the standard(s), and not diluted
by discussions of emacs, pthreads, GetProcAddress,
assembly language, C++ (it is at base "just like" C after all),
gdb, etc. I think that use of polite redirects to the
appropriate group to enforce that is a good thing. I think
harshly slapping down people for being off-topic is
counter-productive, as it leads to long pissing wars and
bitterness (e.g. Kenny).

-David

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