Re: learn me c


noridotjabi@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
This is all worng.

I think you mean "wrong"! And I think you forget this is my opinion
and situation. If this was not the case for you then don't worry I
have not implied that this is the opinion of all c programmers. But I
am sure you will rip my words apart and tell me that I did.


newbie wrote:
It has taken me 1 year to learn C. I did this by reading a c++ book,
then reading a generally available c book, then trying to program and
making so many mistakes it is unbelievable (well actually to the c
guru's out there - Heathfield and Thompson - this probably is
believable), and then when I thought I knew c I bought a copy of K & R.
Only after reading that do I now feal comfortable with c.


Absoultely not. There is no reason to learn C++ before C, it will just
confuse the hell out of you. Don't do any of this. The best place to
start isn't even IN a book, its in a simple tutorial. K & R is far to
hard for a beginner to read, but some other books are okay. There are
pleanty of other ways to get confortable with C. Just google C
tutorials. What skill level are you? What do you know now? What do
you want to learn?


Oh dear you seem to have taken most of my comments literally, for
example the robot comment below, but, and quite the opposit, you seem
to have decided that I implied that he should learn c++ first! I
merely said that I read a c++ book before learning c.

I think unless you are a robot the only way you are gonna learn is by
reading, making mistakes and learning by them.


This is also wrong. You can't exactly make mistakes reading and if you
do you have much bigger problems. In C mistakes are not learned from
so much as made into habits (if they don't generate errors). My
biggest tip if you have a warning FIX IT.


Do you not think that by usimg the internet etc, that you are going to
be "reading"! Also I did say by making mistakes. How can you make
mistakes if you don't actually compile and run any programs. I would
have thought this would be implied. Sorry if this is not!

Actually, robots don't learn anything, they just do what they are
programmed to and pick up information if that is what they're
instructions told them to. What are you trying to say.


Who said anything different?

Any the only way to learn C is to use it! You can't just read and
learn. Copy the source in the tutorial or book. Not copy and paist,
manually type it up as a copy, that really helps, then use what you
learned to make programs.

All reading and no compiling will make gcc a dull boy.
(assuming you use gcc which imho you should however this is off topic
for this group.


Why can't you learn something by just reading? I am not impying that I
used this method - although you seem to have taken this quite
literally!

Sorry if this is not much help.


Its not, if you want to LEARN C and not just be farmilliar with it.


Maybe for you. But of course you should remember this is an opinion
and not a fact so there's no need for you to get all defensive and
corrective. But I am sure you will do it again.

P.S. If your gonna learn c you must buy a copy of K & R. I think the
fact that I had already read other programming books before reading it
definately helped me because they do assume that you are familiar with
a programming concept.

This is not true at all. In order to learn C you do not have to buy
any books at all, it helps by is not required. All sorts of info is
free in the maigcal world were EVERYTHING is, called the internet.
Hope this helps erase what he just told you.
Nori


I don't understand, can no-one apart from yourself have an opinion on
something?

P.S. You did not learn C in a year, it is not possible to learn the
whole language, and it is less possible to do it in a year. I have
been LEARNING C for the past 4 years and I still have barely touched
the tip of the iceberg. A good understanding, a great understanding
even, is very differnt than KNOWING the whole thing.
N

Hey, if that's your level of c after that period of time then good for
you. People learn at different rates. If I were a rocket scientist
would you still expect me not to learn c in a short period?

.

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