Re: C-FAQ 19.7
- From: CBFalconer <cbfalconer@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 04:23:33 -0500
Default User wrote:
Keith Thompson wrote:
Random832 <random@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Keith Thompson wrote:
I can post a URL for a web site. There's no really good way to
post a reference to anything that exists only on Usenet. (Yes,
there's Google Groups, but URLs there are not unique, and they
depend on a single corporation.) And the FAQ is probably too
big to post as a single article.
The FAQ is routinely posted as a single article. And google
accepts message-ids.
But the c-faq.com web site is much easier to search (since
thankfully, the FAQ is not posted to Usenet in HTML). Regardless
of who controls and/or owns it, I strongly prefer to have the FAQ
available on a web site.
[...]
I hope I haven't screwed anything up - I spent a lot of effort
making sure my post was civil, and it did take effort. Part of
the reason this bothers me is that I do know that Steve's a nice
guy, but I also feel a certain sense of how things "ought to be"
with FAQs in general, usenet FAQs in particular, and it's not
compatible with changes being subject to a single person's
approval, or with being published as a book (more because of the
entanglement with a publisher than anything against selling it
in general.)
As for input from regulars, etc... maybe we should form a
committee to recommend revisions and changes to the FAQ.
Maybe. In my opinion (and this is only my opinion), we should
wait for input from Steve before taking any action on this.
Let me just mention that you're the only person who currently
seems to be concerned about this. That absolutely is not meant
to minimize your concerns. But if anything is to be done, it
will require some sort of consensus. Perhaps this should wait
until after the holidays.
Well, "concerned" may be too strong a term, but I've always been a
little surprised by a newsgroup FAQ that specifically avoids any
newsgroup questions. It's unlike any newsgroup FAQ that I've ever
encountered elsewhere. With the FAQ not being a consensus of the
group, things like that can't get added because the maintainer guy
doesn't want them.
It is what it is, and it's not something that keeps me up at night.
It's also not a job I'd want, so I don't complain about it either.
The following is a quote from the text version of the FAQ. I think
it covers this subject adequately.
"This article is Copyright 1990-2004 by Steve Summit. Content
from the book _C Programming FAQs: Frequently Asked Questions_ is
made available here by permission of the author and the publisher
as a service to the community. It is intended to complement the
use of the published text and is protected by international
copyright laws. The on-line content may be accessed freely for
personal use but may not be republished without permission.
"Certain topics come up again and again on this newsgroup. They
are good questions, and the answers may not be immediately
obvious, but each time they recur, much net bandwidth and reader
time is wasted on repetitive responses, and on tedious
corrections to any incorrect answers which may unfortunately be
posted. This article, which is posted monthly, attempts to
answer these common questions definitively and succinctly, so
that net discussion can move on to more constructive topics
without continual regression to first principles.
"No mere newsgroup article can substitute for thoughtful perusal
of a full-length tutorial or language reference manual. Anyone
interested enough in C to be following this newsgroup should also
be interested enough to read and study one or more such manuals,
preferably several times. Some C books and compiler manuals are
unfortunately inadequate; a few even perpetuate some of the myths
which this article attempts to refute. Several noteworthy books
on C are listed in this article's bibliography; see also
questions 18.9 and 18.10. Many of the questions and answers are
cross- referenced to these books, for further study by the
interested and dedicated reader.
"If you have a question about C which is not answered in this
article, you might first try to answer it by checking a few of
the referenced books, or one of the expanded versions mentioned
below, before posing your question to the net at large. There
are many people on the net who are happy to answer questions, but
the volume of repetitive answers posted to one question, as well
as the growing number of questions as the net attracts more
readers, can become oppressive. If you have questions or
comments prompted by this article, please reply by mail rather
than following up -- this article is meant to decrease net
traffic, not increase it."
At most Steve might consider adding a few words here about Usenet
protocol, i.e. top-posting, quoting, snipping, flaming. References
to links would do nicely. The following come to mind:
Some informative links:
<http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
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