Re: The problems in comp.lang.c
- From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:48:14 +0000
Jeff P. Bailey said:
Dear everyone
I've been lurking in this group for a few weeks now. Originally I had a
question to ask (about atomic/threadsafe operations in C), and I wanted
to get the feel of the newsgroup first. In fact I've got to know it well
enough that I realize there's no point in even asking my question, which
would be vilified as "off topic".
Not vilified, no - but surely it makes sense to ask your question in the
place where you're most likely to get effective help? The C language, as
you have undoubtedly discovered by now, doesn't provide an answer for your
question - but a newsgroup such as comp.programming.threads may well be
able to provide just such an answer.
From what I have observed, this group has big problems.
Only a few. I could name them, but I won't bother. Most of them are in my
killfile anyway. You can tell them by their signal/noise ratio, which is
almost invariably very low indeed.
There are some
positive posters here (I'd especially like to thank jacob navia for his
very interesting and useful long posts on stacks and debuggers),
If someone posted long, interesting and useful articles on agricultural
machinery and agrarian economics here, would you thank them for that? And
if they yelled abuse at almost anyone who dared to disagree with them,
would you thank them for /that/?
but
there seem to be many many more people here who post only to be
negative.
The main example seems to be Richard Heathfield
If you think I post here to be negative, you haven't read many of my
articles.
- I don't know what the
history of it is, but he obviously has a deep personal hatred of jacob
navia,
If you believe so, you don't know me very well. I don't hate anyone, and I
certainly don't hate Jacob Navia.
Most of his insults are pretty puerile,
Thanks for that. Most of my articles are positive and constructive, and are
designed to help people learn more about C. I try not to insult people,
but on the other hand it's difficult to maintain equanimity in the face of
such a barrage of falsehoods.
but this constant negativity really seems to bring down the
atmosphere.
The best way to change this is to contribute positive, topical, accurate,
helpful articles.
Then there are lots of other people with a bizarre view of what
is "on topic" and "off topic", where fundamental concepts of C are (for
their own completely arbitrary reasons) verboten in this group. This
stupidity will drive away ordinary C programmers who might want to share
their knowledge and experience!
The stupidity of demanding answers to non-C topics in a C newsgroup may
well end up driving the few remaining C experts in this group. Many have
already given up on clc, quite possibly in disgust at the increasingly
childish attitude of some of the people posting here.
I wish people would see what a useful resource this group could be if it
weren't for a noisy minority of morons who spoil it for everyone else
with their negativity and aggression towards other views.
Likewise, I assure you. But I think we differ over who we think the morons
are. If you don't like my articles, why not killfile me?
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