Re: The problems in comp.lang.c

On 24/3/2008 12:31, Richard Heathfield wrote:
Jeff P. Bailey said:


On 23/3/2008 23:57, Richard Heathfield wrote:

jacob navia said:



Richard Heathfield wrote:

[snip]



Likewise, I assure you. But I think we differ over who we think the
morons are. If you don't like my articles, why not killfile me?


I would say the same. Good advice. You could use it yourself and
stop answering my posts.


Since it is in your commercial interest to have as few people as
possible pointing out your misunderstandings, blunders, and product
plugs, your response does not surprise me at all. It may surprise *you*,
however, to discover that I actually reply to relatively few of your
articles. (It may surprise others, too.)

This is the sort of thing I was talking about - a pointlessly negative
post.


It is, I agree, mostly negative in tone. I do not agree that it is pointlessly so.

It is a sequence of slurs against jacob, with no obvious basis in objective fact. It is hard for an outside observer not to conclude that you are conducting a personal campaign against him.

Every article of jacob's I've read has been well-informed and
useful


Then you have not read very many of them.

I've read enough to see that jacob knows what he's talking about, has extensive experience of C programming and a talent for explaining things to others.

Once again: is it possible that your personal dislike of jacob makes you read each of his posts, looking to find something to criticize?

A reasonable person would say that threads (which will certainly be part
of the next C++ standard, and I believe are also being considered for
the next C standard) are a topic of interest to C programmers, whereas
the breeding habits of gazelle aren't.


That is very unlikely to be true. There will be at least one or two C programmers, somewhere in the world, who are very interested in the breeding habits of gazelles. They might even be modelling breeding patterns in a C program, for conservation purposes. So *obviously* the breeding habits of gazelles should be topical here. And that way madness lies.

Many legal systems have a notion of "reasonable doubt" that isn't precisely defined. Most reasonable people are able to decide what's reasonable in a reasonable way.

The reason it seems crazy to me is that it costs you (in Thunder Bird at
least) a single key-press to *ignore* a thread that you're not
interested in


And several thousand keypresses a day to ignore the several thousand threads we're not interested in, and that can take an hour or more of time. By the time clc descends to that level, it will have lost all the people that make it worth reading.

This seems to me to be pure exaggeration. Once again, your attitude seems to be entirely negative: like nay-sayer who just grumbles that "it'll never work", instead of getting on with it and potentially benefitting C programmers with useful information and advice - whether about standard C, or about the landscape in which C sits.



- you don't need to reply to it, or even take any time
seeing any more posts in the thread once you've ignored it. Making a
series of "that's off topic" posts takes /much/ more time than just
pressing the ignore key!


Nevertheless, it seems to keep the off-topic posts to a manageable level.

Again, negative: who cares if we lose good stuff, as long as we exclude the "bad"?
.

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