Re: Problem with hdparam

Default User said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

Default User said:

Then I came up with a way for you to not be bothered, which
I see you aren't even using.

Actually, I do have a filter set up for TPA. My filters are only on
sometimes, though

Hardly my fault. I'm doing what I can. The point is, there's a way that
Mr. Harter, or you, or anyone other regular doesn't need to read these
bothersome messages.

<sigh> Yes, that's true - there is.

Yet instead I get a rude and insulting reply from
him. A pointless one.

I've answered this already.

Are you to going to rude and insulting, like him?

That sentence no verb.

That's pretty weak, going after an obvious typo.

So much for levity.

I don't agree that Richard Harter was either
particularly rude or particularly insulting (although tactful he was
not).

We'll have to disagree then.

I think we will, yes.

I think "bandwidth wasting public
nuisance" was way beyond non-tactful. He could have opened the
discussion with, "Do you really think these are a productive use of
your time or the group?" Then we could have had a discussion like real
people. Instead, he was an ass about it.

You'll have a much better chance at gaining the moral high ground if you
stop calling people "asses". If you perceive that other people's behaviour
is unacceptable, is that a reason to indulge in the same behaviour? (And
no, I make no claims to perfection in this regard!)


I don't completely agree with his position on net-copping

Yes, it's that favorite position, "It's ok when I netcop, but not when
you do."

That's not what I meant. Whilst it does make sense to remind people about
posting in the way most convenient for those from whom they seek help (and
thus far I lean more towards your position than his), it does get a bit
tedious when that's all you ever seem to do.

, but he does have a point, and he was expressing that point.

Really, what point is that?

Read it again if you've forgotten.

I think he
was uncharitable to say that you are a bandwidth-wasting public
nuisance. But had he said (what I suspect he actually meant) that a
large proportion of your articles are a bandwidth-wasting public
nuisance, I'd have agreed.

I don't accept the premise.

<sigh> Yes, I know that. I've snipped your defence of that position not
because I'm trying to conceal or ignore it, but because I'm not trying to
persuade you or defeat your arguments. I'm only trying to argue that
plonking Richard Harter was a mistake on your part. Clueful people are not
all that plentiful around here, after all.

<snip>

As far as these specific messages, I probably average about one a week.

Would you like me to count them for you?

Now, the bit about percentages. What IS the proper Richard Heathfield
approved level of other posts before I can post a TPA?

Don't you think that's needlessly confrontational? I simply suggested that
you give some thought to this. If you want a fight, go fight someone else.

<snip>

Now, let's go back to what really chaps me. YOU are one of the biggest
wasters of bandwidth here. Let's talk percentages. What percentage of
your posts are pointless arguments with Jacob Navia? And what do those
translate into for total bytes posted each day?

Let's find out, shall we? I'll try to summarise my last hundred posts by
dividing them into three groups: "waste of bandwidth" stuff (such as this
discussion, and also including techie stuff if it is not specifically
C-related), techie stuff (ONLY C-related), and replies of any kind at all
to Jacob Navia. I don't have ready access to the byte sizes of articles,
but I do have access to line counts, so I'll use those instead.

I chose 100 because it was large enough to be a decent sample without being
so large as to be troublesome to collate. Working back from today (not
including this article, obviously), it takes us back about six days, to 6
April.

Posts Lines Lines/Post % of all lines
Non-C articles 21 556 26.5- 11.77+
Technical responses 74 3903 52.7+ 82.69+
Jacob Navia 5 261 52.2 5.53-

82% (or even 74%, depending on how you look at it) doesn't seem so bad to
me.

So - you asked me to come up with the figures, and I've obliged. Now it's
your turn.

<snip>

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