Re: Compiler features

On Jul 5, 5:50 am, Mark McIntyre <markmcint...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Squeamizh wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:49 pm, Mark McIntyre <markmcint...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Squeamizh wrote:
I am not sure what is meant by "assembling" the main window, but
regardless of the meaning, saying you can do it in a few lines
certainly sounds ridiculous.
Perhaps this is all just some big misunderstanding, and Mark McIntyre
can provide an example of what he's talking about.  
Sure. I have an app that pops up a window, displays an analogue clock,
and counts down from some point defined by the commandline, before
beeping thrice and exiting. It takes 40 lines.

Antoninus said it would take "tens or hundreds of lines." I'm having
a difficult time  understanding how that criterion doesn't fit your 40-
line example.

I said it would take just a few. I'm having a difficult time
understanding how that criterion doesn't fit my 40 line example.

This is a good example of how forum discussions often degenerate into
a waste of everyone's time. There seems to always be a certain
element of participants who are either too dishonest or too stupid to
take into account the entire context of a thread before posting. In
this case, you appear to have forgotten what you yourself posted when
you attempted to contradict Antoninus Twink. Now, by agreeing that
your 40-line example does support his claim, you make it obvious that
your motivation was not to spawn an exchange of ideas, but to publicly
argue with someone you dislike. Not true? Then please clarify your
part in the below exchange:

Antoninus Twink: Just assembling the main window will be tens or
hundreds of lines of code.
Mark McIntyre: huh? Maybe in some arcane UI such as Win32, but in most
high level UIs it takes a few lines.

By the way 40 lines is the /entire programme/. The window part of it was
only a few.

I asked you for an example, and you provided a vague description of
some perl script. I realize that since you are incapable or unwilling
to consider the appropriate context before opening your big fat mouth,
I'm likely wasting my time, but if you actually go back and read
Antoninus's post, the discussion specifically and explicitly regarded
"ISO C." In addition, the program being discussed is a payroll
application that would actually be used in the real world, not a silly
script which beeps three times (which, I guess you are amused by?).
When I asked you to illuminate your point with an example, I wrongly
assumed you would take some basic context into consideration. Now I
know better.

If that is your interpretation of events, then the only troll here is
you.

Evidently you've not been around long enough to spot Twink's trolling.

I don't care much about who said something; the substance of what is
actually said is a lot more interesting. If you can't support your
side with a logical argument--and clearly you cannot--then simply
disparaging someone's character is not a valid substitute. What's
more, you admitted that you baited Antoninus somehow, and that he
ended up "taking the bait." That sounds like a plain admission of
trolling to me.

But the point is, if the HLL you're using provides suitable features you
can do it easily. Win32 on its own is too low level to offer this sort
of sopistication but there are plenty of higher-level UI libs that do.
These also have the advantage that they work on different underlying
graphical display subsystems, The above 40-liner would work on Windows
(95-Vista), X-11, MacOs, DecWindows, and probably a bunch of others.

I notice you didn't comment on this part.

My post addressed your claim that it would take only a few lines of
code to build the main window of a GUI. I guess you think you scored
some big points by describing something very obvious that has already
been posted elsewhere in this thread, but you failed to notice that it
is entirely irrelevant.
.

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