Re: Garbage Collection - Stop Making Trash

From: Keith H Duggar (duggar_at_mit.edu)
Date: 07/20/04


Date: 20 Jul 2004 17:27:24 -0400


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> If someone could use formal logic to prove that it is always better to use
> GC than to not use GC, then I would be utterly shocked.

Nobody, myself included, mentioned formal logic. (Your statement is an
example of a red herring.)

Logical flaws (logical fallacies, flaws in reasoning) do apply to
informal logic and thus to the arguments in this thread.
 
> In this discussion, we are not probing for any "universal truth" on GC.

Another red herring. No one implied a probe for "universal" truth.
However, the guidelines of logic and argumentation are useful for any
debate such as this one. They help us all to avoid common fallacies
and focus instead on making sounds arguments and using sound reasoning
rather than slinging poorly constructed thoughts around. And thus they
expedite our search for a "coherent" truth and mutual understanding.

> I just wanted to point out that these "logical flaws" don't mean
> that his points should be discarded without consideration.

I agree completely. To do so would be an example of argumentum ad
logicam. This is an example why awareness of basic logical fallacies
is important for all of us engaged in debate.

> However, I do think that the term "logical
> flaw" was accidentally misused.

I think this may help you judge whether it was in fact "accidentally
misused"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic#Formal_and_informal_logic

There are a number of excellent resources regarding logic (informal is
what I have in mind of course) and the common fallacies. I recommend
brushing up on them as I think you will find them a most useful aid in
reasoning.

Keith

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