Re: (not entirely...) OT: OPINION... chicken entrails, runic stones, and crystal balls... WAS CoBOL moved to OO

From: Peter E.C. Dashwood (dashwood_at_enternet.co.nz)
Date: 01/02/04


Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:05:33 +1300


"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
news:217e491a.0401011957.332689cc@posting.google.com...
> "Peter E.C. Dashwood" <dashwood@enternet.co.nz> wrote
>
> > You still show difficulty in grasping that the NETWORK will be King,
rather
> > than your centralised mainframe.
> >
> > (I expected more from you...<G>)
>
> Or he _grasped_ it but simply thinks that you are _WRONG_.
>

Yes, I know that, but this is a rhetorical debate.

> You appear to think that if one is not frothing at the mouth in a
> frenzy to buy into the latest Microsoft technospeak trend that they
> are trying to force everywhere, then one must be spoken down to as
> being slightly backward.

Huh?! Please show where ANYTHING I have EVER posted would support that
conclusion.

That's unfair and unnecessary, Richard. I am not a fervent supporter of MS
and have indicated as much on numerous occasions. I use MS at the moment
because that is what my client is using. We find it adequate, so I am fairly
neutral on this one.

I think you are so abhorrent of MS Corporation that you are seeing MSophiles
under every rock and reacting to them instead of considering your posts. You
already said that something I wrote could have been written by JerryMouse
which shows you completely misunderstood it. (I have no issue with Jerry's
posts, for the most part, but it just wasn't pertinent.)

Neither am I speaking down to people as being backward. (Although I do
consider that some of the entrenched attitudes encountered here ARE
backward; I still respect the right of people to have an opinion, and
therefore take the time to attempt a reasoned argument, expecting and
enjoying fair debate.)

I am expressing an opinion, and I have tried to support it with reasoned,
unemotional, argument that is based on what I observe and not on any leaning
towards, or away from, MicroSoft or any other Company.

If you read the Subject you will see that what was expressed is OPINION and
it is open to debate.

How is that promoting MicroSoft or expecting people to be foaming at the
mouth for MS products?

Look to your own prejudices before you make personal attacks.

>
> The network (as web services) may be 'king' for _some_ uses. For other
> applications having a large central server, or a cluster of server
> blades, may be exactly the correct solution.

Please show where I ever referred to "the Network (as web services)". I
didn't and I don't. I had a misunderstanding about Web Services which has
since been corrected.

When I use the term NETWORK I am referring to the local LAN, the IntraNet,
and the Internet. Obviously, I agree completely with your last paragraph,
where a central server or cluster of server blades is simply part of "the
Network". Furthermore, I believe that in the future (and that is what I am
discussing, not the immediate present), the distinction between what is
currently considered LAN, ClientServer, IntraNet and Internet, will all
become blurred and companies will simply refer to "The Network". This is
what will be "King".

(Unless of course, my assessment is completely wrong; then it won't be <G>)

Pete.



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