Re: Infinite Loops and Explicit Exits
From: Rick Smith (ricksmith_at_mfi.net)
Date: 11/06/04
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:23:38 -0500
"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "Rick Smith" <ricksmith@mfi.net> wrote
>
> > "I did not look at any prior posts."
>
> RS>> search of Google groups, confirms at least ten years of being
> emphatic,
> RS>> firm, and resolute on the matters of single paragraph perform and
> GO TO.
>
> So, you made up that bit about looking at my posts over ten years too.
>
> Or is that unfairly taking quotes out of context to arrive at the
> required conclusion ?
>
> > Yes. I did so in the context of showing how the use of such
> > phrases fits the definition of "insist" that I used and, later, to
> > show how these phrases might "imply" that certain features
> > are "archaic." These were words I used in my earlier
> > response, as "insisting on ... implying ... archaic."
>
> And, it is so much easier to start at the conclusion and then just
> 'make stuff up' to support it. It saves all that reading, and all
> that nasty context that might not be quite as you want it.
>
> And when you make it up, it is so much harder to argue against. No
> messy counter quotes showing context, nothing can show that you
> misinterpreted it or misrepresented it. No, because only _you_ know
> what it means: you made it up to mean that.
>
> > Yes. What I did not make up was the recurring theme that
> > occurs in this newsgroup; that is, once certain words are used,
> > there is, often, a flurry of posts with individuals taking their
> > usual positions supporting some features and deprecating others.
>
> 'Often' ? Even when you made it up yourself you only got 3 times in 2
> years.
>
> > Perhaps, the opportunity will arise when I can post some code
> > using perform ... thru and go to, just to see the reaction.
>
> > After
> > all, I've been insisting for a while that there is no *the* way.
>
> So I thought, perhaps this is something that he didn't make up. You
> have said "no the/one way" a handful of times in the last few weeks,
> about a variety of subjects, but googling didn't turn up any ealier
> use of this. Perhaps you were thinking of someone else.
>
> However what I did find was a message that _specifically_ wanted THRU
> made archaic:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl341961526d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&sel
m=969a8h%242pdo%241%40news.hitter.net
>
> """During the few years I have been following this group,
> I have seen no one provide justification for the continued
> availablility of PERFORM ... THRU in the COBOL language.
>
> The use of PERFORM ... THRU should be made archaic.
> It is a poor programming practice that leads to and causes
> problems in maintaining source code."""
>
> Perhaps, Rick, this is the source of what you imagined we were
> implying, you may like to argue with the author of that message.
>
> As for 'insisting', later in that thread this author does so:
>
> """I absolutely insist that it is better to update or rewrite
> such procedures using current techniques."""
Yes, Mr Plinston, it is true that you took a quote out of
context and, as nearly as I can tell, reported accurately
the others.
The thread, I started, concerning making PERFORM ...
THRU archaic occurred within six months following a
brush with suicide. I was feeling quite angry during that
period. Later that year, I began working more closely
with others on the COBOL standard and gained far
more appreciation for the language and the standards
process, even to the point of making some small
contributions.
I sincerely apologize to all for having started that thread
and for my excesses in responses to other threads during
the years I was depressed and suicidal. The period
extended from November 1998 through August 2004.
Now, Mr Plinston, is there any other way I may be of
service?
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