Re: OT Science versus religion: Is compromise impossible?

From: LX-i (lxi0007_at_netscape.net)
Date: 12/13/04


Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:43:48 -0600

Richard wrote:
>>Those folks must not know the difference between "atheist", ...
>
>
> So what do _you_ think an 'atheist' is ?
>
> Someone who doesn't believe in _your_ 'god' ?
> Someone who doesn't believe in someone else's 'god' ?
> Someone who doesn't believe in _any_ 'god' ?

The latter, and the dictionary backs me up.

Atheist - one who believes that there is no deity

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=atheist&x=0&y=0

One would think, being the opposite of "theist" (definition for "theism"
came up...) - belief in the existence of a god or gods; specifically :
belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of man
and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=theist&x=0&y=0

What Pete was saying was that some folks seemed astounded that there
could be a moral atheist. (I was not among them.)

> It seems likely that you don't believe in any of the thousands of
> 'gods' except for just one (or perhaps some of the others such as
> baalzebub). It may be that you are just 'one god' different from what
> you probably call an atheist. You don't believe in thousands of them,
> they don't believe in just one more.

You're playing with words. I forget what Olympics or what sport, but
the only two entries were the USA and the USSR. The USA won - so, the
headlines in the USSR read "USSR places 2nd - USA next to last". There
is a *huge* difference between a monotheist and an atheist. The former
believes in a single deity, the latter believes there can be no deity.
Yes, it's one "god" off, but that one is a big number.

> In fact I believe in all the gods (well some may be entirely fictional,
> certainly some religions are), it is just that they were no more space
> pixies than I am.

You "believe in" them? They can't all be right. :)

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