Re: OT - "lie" vs "error"

From: LX-i (lxi0007_at_netscape.net)
Date: 03/25/05 

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:12:38 -0600

James J. Gavan wrote:
> LX-i wrote:
>
>> jce wrote:
>>
>>> GW tells the people that he cut his vacation short because you have
>>> to "err on the side of life"...which doesn't explain why the death
>>> penalty count was so high in Texas.....
>>> Another example of telling the truth (I think he believes what he is
>>> saying) but looking at his decisions in general, it's a lie.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tell me why liberals want convicted murders to live and Terri Schiavo
>> to die. I'm really having trouble taking the left seriously when
>> *they* are the ones for long, draw-out appeals that take forever,
>> because "what if advances in technology can prove their innocence?"
>> However, no such advances are hoped for Terri.
>>
>> Just peachy - let the guilty live, kill the innocent. No wonder I'm
>> not a liberal...
>>
>>
> I am going to get really pissed off at you if you keep on sneering at
> LIBERALS. Change your time piece.

I've heard no conservatives say Terri should die.

> My clock is set at 12:00 = Liberals

[snip times]

> LIBERALISM sits centre at 12:00 taking from both right and left, and
> quite intentionally so.

You're not the first to claim that you're liberal, but you're "in the
center".

> With no 'Labor' party in the States, your Democrats have to take on some
> but not all the ideas of Socialism.

They don't *have* to - for some reason, they choose to. Socialism
hasn't led to prosperity in nearly the same degree as our capitalistic,
free-market society - sort of makes me wonder *why* they choose to.

> (Try 36 million without health care
> coverage for starters. Don't equivocate - I got that number, (needs
> updating), from a GP from Somerset, Kentucky some five years back).
> Whether UK Social-Democrats, US Deomcrats or Canadian Liberals - they
> are all essentially centrist parties.

Does someone without "health care" mean that the government should get
involved? I'm of the belief that *most* folks without "health care" are
without it due to the choices they have made in their life - and,
conversely, those who "have it" are also there due to the choices they
have made in their lives. Rewarding irresponsible behavior with free
money (or health care, or whatever) only encourages irresponsibility.

When people have high stakes, they are usually also highly motivated.
I'm in that current situation now with one aspect of my military service.

> I guess you fit in around 11:40 to 11:45. Go buy a new Timex !

Better to be early than late... :)

> As for the death thing and that poor girl - much too emotive and nobody
> will be convinced. Eileen and I discussed it only yesterday - and we
> couldn't even agree between ourselves - just one small family unit.

There's unanimity within our house - but, I know of others where there
is not. It looks like this particular case is a lost cause anyway - I
just wonder how far the "*we* can decide when *your* life's not worth
living" precedent will go. 

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