Re: OT - "lie" vs "error"
- From: "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:14:02 +1200
"LX-i" <lxi0007@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> docdwarf@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > In article <34f0f$42646629$45491f85$23624@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > LX-i <lxi0007@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>Chuck Stevens wrote:
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >>>I know lots of religious groups who think abortion is a Bad Thing and
would
> >>>counsel their members most strenuously against it, but would not dream
of
> >>>considering the idea of convincing the Federal Government to make sure
> >>>nobody had the right to act on their disagreement.
> >>
> >>Well, these religions are being hypocritical on the issue, then. If
> >>they feel it's wrong, why is it wrong? (One would assume, "because it
> >>takes innocent life".) So, they're not interested in the government
> >>preserving innocent life? What's the point of having the belief if
> >>you're not going to act on it?
> >
> >
> > It is one thing to act on belief, quite another to try to have those
> > beliefs be made the law of the land; the logical conclusion of the
'acting
> > on it' you posit above is a theocracy.
> >
> > Not in *my* United States of America, thank you.
>
> This is to all the folks who have written similar things (not just you,
> DD). I do not lobby for the criminalization of abortion because it is
> my religious belief - I lobby for it because it is the right, humane,
> and dignified thing to do. But no one wants to talk facts - all you
> (opposed) say is "YOU CAN'T SHOVE YOUR RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS!!!!"
> or words to that effect.
>
Daniel, I have never suggested you are shoving religion down my throat in
discussing this. I attempted to discuss it in the previous post regarding
the chicken cult in this thread, posted on the 19th, but you haven't
responded.
If you are lobbying for the criminalization of abortion (your post above
seems to contradict a previous position where you agreed it was OK to let
the mother decide), then I would really like to hear your response to my
post. I would seriously disagree with the illegalization of abortion for the
reasons I outlined there.
But, I agree it should be possible to discuss this like any other issue, in
a civilised way.
<snip>>
> But. heaven forbid someone suggest that someone else should do something
> "right" or "wrong" - seems "rights" these days merely consist of "I
wanna"s.
Suggesting that people do something, is far removed from legally enforcing
that they MUST do it, and the implications of the latter are far-reaching. I
explored this by analogy in my post.
Pete
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