Re: "Shared" procedure division code




On 4-Aug-2005, docdwarf@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> >> It appears that 'no more information was added' when one equates 'It is'
> >> with 'I believe it is'; I do not believe that this equating is, by any
> >> means, a universal phenomenon.
> >
> >I never claimed it was universal. I claimed that in this particular case no
> >further information was added.
>
> The condition of 'no further information was added' is predicated on the
> condition of equating 'It is' with 'I believe it is'.

In this case, yes.


> >The main exception is when "I believe" doesn't really mean "I believe", but
> >means "I could be wrong, but".
>
> Meaning is the result of interpretation, as Wittgenstein had it; a red
> banner can be interpreted as 'Long Live the Glorious Socialist
> Revolution!' or 'Happy Wedding-Day!'

OK. Let's look at the possibilities we have discussed:

It is stupid.
I believe it is stupid.

If they are synonyms, then "I believe" doesn't add anything. Why should I tell
him to add that to what he said?

or
It is stupid.
I believe it is stupid.

If "I believe it is stupid" means "I'm not really sure", then they are not
synonyms. If so, why should I be presumptuous enough to tell him that he
didn't mean what he said?

Do you have any alternative scenarios for this particular instance?
.



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