Re: [OT] Liberal Weeny Spouting off....Was VSAM doubt





"jce" <defaultuser@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:xO4Oe.38857$Yx1.14601@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Ron" <Spamstopper@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Xns96B74E41D44C3SpamKillerNoSpamOrg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> In this and other forums the incorrect use of "doubt" in the context
>> of asking a "question" is a ubiquitous english mistake by those from
>> India.
>
> It is not a mistake. It's a difference.
>
>> Having time on my hands I finally decided that an english lesson
>> was in order. There is no sure way to separate cultures than if they
>> cannot communicate accurately. The question WAS posted in english.
>> If those from India can communicate better with their english speaking
>> counterparts their effectiveness will be greatly improved. Accuracy
>> IS kind of important when reading requirements and writing code.
>
> The last time one of my teachers told us that "a lesson was in order" that
> wasn't good news. Needless to say, he wasn't a popular teacher.
> Teaching, is unfortunately, an undervalued and underappreciated skill and
> some are better at it than others.
>
> Perhaps we should organize "post reviews" before allowing them to be
> placed on a global server.
>
This has been considered by this forum from time to time in the past. The
question of moderating it has also been considered.

I hope it never happens, and if it does, I'll very likely not come here.
Part of the 'attraction' of this newsgroup (at least for me) is that it is
uncensored and unmoderated. People posting here know that. We have had
people come in with the stated aim of destroying it; sometimes they leave
after a week or two and sometimes we find that three months later they have
become a valuable contributor.

There is something very important in being able to say exactly what you
think, whether it is politically correct, offensive to some people, deeply
meaningful, or just meaningless babble.

This is the truly important reason for having the Internet. It isn't just
about reference and knowledge; it is about unfettered communication, and a
public voice for all. This can sometimes rock societies to their
foundations.

Do you think the Russian Communist Dictatorship would have embraced
democracy when it did, if there was no Internet? Do you think that over 300
million Internet users (and growing) in China are having no effect on
official policy? Maybe, maybe not. Difficult to prove, but you can bet that
if the 'Party Line' is saying how wonderful and superior life is under the
Regime, and kids get on the Internet and see how kids who live under a
different regime live, and then they start communicating, and the Regime is
unable to suppress it... it isn't too long before there is a generation
demanding change. People don't generally like being lied to by their leaders
(and this applies in ANY Regime, including the ones we live under). The
Internet is a means of keeping them honest, or, at the very least, giving a
voice to opposing opinions.

Forums like this one are far more valuable than the mere discussion of the
finer points of a venerable computer programming language. Sure we
invariably go off topic, but the off-topic discussions often have more
intrinsic value than the on-topic ones. (OK, they don't always... and
threads can get tedious, but I'd rather see them published and know I don't
have to read them, than not see them published at all, or worse still, have
someone else decide for me what is acceptable and what isn't, BEFORE I get
to read it.) Sometimes publishing what isn't acceptable is a very good way
to raise awareness of it and get people thinking about it.

I get annoyed by stuff here, just like everybody else, but when I do, I
remind myself that the alternative would be much more 'annoying'...in fact,
it would be unbearable.

Consider and discuss: "I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend
to the death, your right to say it." :-)

Pete.



.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Internet countries.
    ... they don't have computers that communicate in English or they don't speak ... I believe that there is internet in almost every country. ... Chinese can communicate with Russians just as Americans can communicate ... Language is not a serious barrier with computers. ...
    (alt.guitar.beginner)
  • Re: J4 - presentation/discussion on "Future of the COBOL Standard"
    ... I strongly support your desire for clear English. ... Technical language can give a false illusion of accuracy. ... plain English is a good way to communicate in most situations...), but, if ... (I am NOT talking about COBOL development here). ...
    (comp.lang.cobol)
  • Re: OT Personal Attacks and Insults. (HUMOR)
    ... insults I have compiled the following. ... the limits of Internet tedium" you go and push the boundary even ... --It sounds like English; it even looks like English, ... craven incoherent words. ...
    (alt.smokers.pipes)
  • [OT] Re: Sushi != sashimi {still: YAAP: Spork Rogue}
    ... Unless you enjoy reading arguments on the Internet (if you are reading ... that doesn't mean it's the best way to communicate on this forum. ... this highly mixed "first language" newsgroup, ... I expect most people who can't tell what Mr. Cobb is saying just ignore ...
    (rec.games.roguelike.nethack)
  • Re: J4 - presentation/discussion on "Future of the COBOL Standard"
    ... I strongly support your desire for clear English. ... Technical language is sometimes used to silence semi-technical subject matter experts. ... A Statement of Requirements needs to communicate ... I also linked the technical spec to the business spec. ...
    (comp.lang.cobol)