Re: COBOL FAQ *moved*
- From: "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:47:57 +1200
"Howard Brazee" <howard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> On 17-Aug-2005, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I have been doing a lot of experimenting with Firefox lately and find it
>> excellent. But it still isn't my 'default Browser' and I'm still not
>> persuaded to drop IE in favour of it. My first ventures into Linux have
>> been
>> disastrous and I have fled back to Win XP Pro with renewed appreciation
>> of
>> it. I simply don't have time for the learning curve on Linux at the
>> moment.
>> I'll look at it again when I have retired...:-).
>>
>> Netscape 8.0 apparently emulates IE when it needs to, to resolve MS
>> Jscript
>> and HTML interpretations. I have not noted any Firefox problems with
>> stuff
>> developed for IE (apart from bgsound tags, which is fair enough...I have
>> it
>> on my list to fix this on pages that use it...)
>>
>> My server logs show that over 90% of all access is via IE. I intend to
>> keep
>> using it as my target platform for web page developments, but I do check
>> them with Firefox now to keep IE honest... :-)
>
> I know that the default setting of Opera is to lie to web sites about what
> browser it is using. This is because so many web sites have logic that
> is too
> limited.
>
> Both Firefox and Opera have decided that Active-X is too dangerous to
> implement.
>
> Most pages don't test against the de jure standards, only the de facto
> standard
> (does it work with IE).
>
Yes, I agree. There is such a huge effort in developing decent pages, that
anything that complicates the process (like considering the implications of
different Browsers) is pushed down the priority stack. Just like most IT,
the top priority is "Get it working...". Even with a good toolset, it is not
a simple matter to ensure Browser compatibility once you step beyond the
most basic facilities. I was certainly guilty of only testing with IE, but
the server logs and general feedback indicated that was OK. It is only since
discussing it here and listening to the other viewpoints that I have even
wanted to improve the situation.
Firefox installed easily, is not resource hungry, and runs very well.
(Unlike Netscape 6.0 which was so slow on my system that I had to remove it.
It seemed to be paging everything all the time because disk activity went
berserk and rendering time was just unacceptable. I probably needed to
configure it, but had neither the time, inclination, nor knowledge to do
so.) Firefox, on the other hand runs like a champion straight out of the
box.
All new pages I develop are now checked with Firefox and it has been very
useful. Pages I know are not working outside IE I have a stack of and am
working my way through it. Firefox has been useful and helpful.
I have no experience with Netscape 8 and would be interested to know if
anyone here is using it. It is supposed to have an 'IE compatibility'
function and I'd be very interested to hear of any experiences anyone has
had with that.(Pages that previously didn't 'work' now do so...?)
Pete.
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