Re: Cobol books & experiences
- From: "William M. Klein" <wmklein@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:37:44 GMT
What Dan is talking about WAS "third Standard COBOL" (aka the "'85
Standard") which is no longer a recognized COBOL Standard.
It had a "base document" (originally approved as an ANSI Standard, then
adopted by ISO)
Then there was the first Amendment (Intrinsic Functions) - also adopted by
ISO
Then there was a "Corrections Amendment" - Also adopted by ISO.
For the '02 (current) COBOL Standard, things are QUITE different.
It went thru the ISO process and ANSI then adopted it. There has been one
approved TR (Technical Report - for "Object Finalization").
I *believe* that the first two "technical corrigenda" documents are either
approved or close to approved thru the ISO process.
There are two more TR's relatively close to finished
Native XML support
Collection Classes
(Chuck could tell us EXACTLY where all the TR's and Corrigenda are in the
process).
Just as ANSI can adopt the current ISO Standard, so can "DIN" (the German
Standards body; so can BSI (?) British Standards Institute, etc)
Again, the '85 Standard (and earlier COBOL Standards) started as US
Standards and were then adopted as ISO Standards (and by various other
national standards bodies). For the '02 Standard (its TR's and Corrigenda -
it is ISO first).
There *are* procedures for ANSI to adopt ISO TR's - but to the best of my
knowledge (and again Chuck can correct me) there has been no attempt for
ANSI to adopt the Finalizer TR - or either of the two following ones.
Does this make things any clearer?
"James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8uwgf.563516$oW2.81119@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Dan Nagle wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> James J. Gavan wrote:
>>
>>> Dan Nagle wrote:
>>
>>
>> <snip a bunch>
>>
>>>> There's so many Cobol standards, the ANSI webstore
>>>> is a bit confusing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what you are reading - there is a ONE and ONLY COBOL
>>> Standard - gets initiated by J4 then passed to ISO (WG4) and becomes the
>>> ISO COBOL 2002 - as Chuck explained in a more technical vein.
>>
>>
>> OK, there's a standard, with INCITS, DIN, and ISO/IEC numbers.
>> Then there's a corrigendum and a function module, also three numbers.
>> So that's 3 times 3 entries.
>>
>> I know enough to buy the $18 ones, not the $192 ones.
>> I suppose I want one standard, one corrigendum and one function module.
>>
> Bill or Chuck, clarify for Dan please.
>
> I only know the term DIN because as part of what I program, Corrosion
> Testing, each Vessel, (think of the hot water tank in your basement/or
> attic), at an oil/gas plant, is constructed from a particular metal
> specification. The tables used here in N. America are published by the
> ASME (Mechanical Engineering) - and the metal descriptions are meaningless
> ANSI codes like AW 2564 6, or SA2345 J etc... We independently have in
> Canada CSA; have no idea whether that is ISO compatible.
>
> (As an example we have a US-made Maytag stove/cooker. Apparently fuses not
> required in the States, but as an additional safety measure, CSA insists
> anything here, including imports, must have fuses. Discovered where the
> fuses were a few years ago when it went on the fritz. Auto-mechanic style,
> remove the bottom warming draw and getting on my back shove my head
> underneath to the very back of the device - LUVERLY !)
>
> Now in the rest of the world those Metals I refer to, there are :-
>
> British = BS or BSI, French = AFNOR, German = DIN, Italian = UNI, Japan =
> JIS and I have UNS = ??????
>
> There's a move to try and get the above set of codes into an agreed ISO
> list - when, don't know.
>
> I can only assume your 'DIN' references to a German written version of the
> COBOL Standard ?
>
> Jimmy
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