Re: Making money from Java

Howard Brazee wrote: 
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:48:10 GMT, "Oliver Wong" <owong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


In general, a "liberal" is one who wants to change prevailing societal values, and a "conservative" is one who wants to maintain (conserve) them. :-)

What if the prevailing societal values are considered "liberal"? I don't follow politics much, being relatively uninterested in it, but from what I understand Canada is generally considered to be "socially liberal" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada).

If a Canadian generally agrees with the prevailing liberal societal values (same sex marriages are okay, etc.) and wishes to conserve those values, would that Canadian be a liberal or a conservative? 


Lables have meanings that change.   At one time "Liberal" meant pretty
close to what "Libertarian" means now.    One can come up with a case
that conservatives, conservationists, preservatives, and
preservationists" all keep things from changing and do the same thing.

In a two party system, it is easy to say that whatever party is
opposing the more conservative party is the opposite of conservative.
But that opposite in the U.S. and that opposite in Canada don't need
to have much in common.

Conservativism, generally harkens to values of a past - usually not a
past that actually existed, but an idealized past viewed through
filtered glasses.

I suppose we can all assess in our minds what we think something means, and sometimes based on experiences. Dictionary-wise, you are correct in grouping - "conservatives, conservationists, preservatives, and
preservationists" - to conserve/preserve.

Not quite how I viewed English conservatism - I came to the conclusion that to conserve/preserve was, "I've made it in this world and want to hang on to what I've got. You haven't been so lucky. Pity...... F... you Jack up alright !"

One of the reasons that I thought the Canadian political party name Progressive Conservatives was an absolute absurdity.

Jimmy
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