Re: Making money from Java



Judson McClendon wrote:
> "Donald Tees" <donald_tees@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>The english meaning of liberal also shares meaning with liberty.
>
>
> Yes, "liberty from constraint of traditional values." :-)
>
>
>>Conservative has always, politically, meant preserving the status quo,
>>*regardless* of the value of that status quo. Judson's idea that
>>somehow conservative really means "freedom" because it is "america"
>>is just a rather silly affectation of american society.
>
>
> I was speaking specifically about conservatives in the US. Here, socially
> dictatorial ideas like Political Correctness are *liberal* ideas. PC is
> quite the reverse of personal freedom. Restricting Christians rights to pray
> or express their beliefs publicly are the reverse of personal freedoms, and
> those are most definitely liberal ideas here. So please, don't give me this
> nonsense about liberals believing in personal freedom (for everybody). Yech!
> :-)

Insisting that my children have to pray if they want to go to school is
freedom? Saying, "NO" they do not, is dictatorial?

Nobody, ever, in the United States or Canada, has ever said you could
not pray any way you wanted to. Just do not insist they *I* have to be
part of your hypocracy. Insisting that *my* children be brainwashed by
your lackeys is not what *my* father went to war over, nor something *I*
wish to fight for.

Your response regarding McCarthy is typical. You personally know of at
least a dozen people that later admited to having horrible belief
systems, so of course persecuting them was right. The fact that they are
*suppose* to have freedom to believe what they want is completely
irrelevant to you.

Did it ever occur to you, Judson, that a belief we, the strong and
wealthy in society, have to strike a balance? We can believe in helping
the weak without believing that weakness is a virtue. We can share our
wealth without believing that owning things is wrong. We can respect
other people's beliefs without giving up our own beliefs.

Freedom to agree only with the status quo is *NOT* freedom. Freedom to
use your leftovers is not the route to wealth either.

Donald

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