Re: Making money from Java


"Judson McClendon" <judmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:FoZjf.47094$6y4.38133@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Donald Tees" <donald_tees@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[snip]
> > Your response regarding McCarthy is typical. You personally know of at
> > least a dozen people that later admited to having horrible belief
> > systems, so of course persecuting them was right. The fact that they are
> > *suppose* to have freedom to believe what they want is completely
> > irrelevant to you.
>
> Again, you are misinformed. The Constitution of the United States clearly
> says it is Treason to espouse the violent overthrow of the United States
> Government. This is precisely what the Communist conspirators were about
> (See the Communist revolutions in Russa or China for details). So you are
> *dead wrong* to say they had the freedom to embrace and propagate such
> idealogy here in the United States.

Article III, Section 3,
"1. Treason against the United States shall consist only
in levying war against them, or in adhering to their
enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall
be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two
witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in
open court.
"2. The Congress shall have power to declare the
punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall
work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during
the life of the person attainted."

Federalist 83 [Alexander Hamilton],
"The United States, in their united or collective capacity,
are the OBJECT to which all general provisions in the
Constitution must necessarily be construed to refer."
[caps original]

The "United States Government" is distinct from the
United States ("in their united or collective capacity")
and conspiracy, by definition, is not an overt act.

Mr McClendon, I wonder whether you may be confusing
'sedition' with 'treason'. Sedition is the 'incitement of
public disorder or rebellion against a government', which,
I suppose, would include incitement of "violent overthrow"
of that government; but, in the United States, sedition is
not treason, due to the definition of treason in the U.S.
Constitution. It is also my understanding that sedition is
not a crime (to distinguish between speech and acts);
but any violent act proceeding from it is likely a criminal
offense.



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