Re: Making money from Java

Bottom post. -CCS

"Judson McClendon" <judmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Chuck Stevens" <charles.stevens@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I have some problem with people making sure *other people* can hear that
>> they're praying. An omnipotent God shouldn't have any problem getting
>> the gist of your thoughts without actually experiencing sound waves (or
>> having to read lips).
>
>
> I can agree with that. More than one person sitting at a table and having
> common prayer, would want to make their prayer(s) audible to those sitting
> at their table. But praying in public and purposely being loud to make a
> show would fall under Jesus' Matthew 6:6 injunction as you say. We're
> finally in agreement! Hurrah! :-)
>
> I hope you wouldn't be offended at someone praying in public and
> unintentionally being loud enough to be overheard? :-)
> --
> Judson McClendon judmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (remove zero)
> Sun Valley Systems http://sunvaley.com
> "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
> whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
>

I don't think we disagree much on the issue of a group deciding to pray
together, though as I've repeatedly indicated, the line between such an
action in and of itself and the participants making sure those heathen
around them are aware of the action is thin and fuzzy indeed.

When I think of prayer in school, and when I think back to the stimulus for
its prohibition, it was not the individual or the small group praying (or
even engaging in a Moment of Silence) that was the issue, it was ministers
of individual organized religions leading invocations and prayers.

If *organized* prayer (and invocations, e.g. at sporting or more solemn
events) were reinstituted, which is where I think the original sticking
point was, does your respect for the rights of other religions extend to
teaching your children to demonstrate *exactly* the same degree of respect
for the invocation provided by a Wiccan priestess at an event (solemn or
otherwise) at a (public) school that you would expect every member of the
audience to demonstrate? Ought a LDS stake president's prayers be
afforded the same respect that a Coptic Orthodox priest's might enjoy?

And, more to the point, what criteria should the public school use in
deciding which clergy of what religion are considered appropriate for the
giving of invocations and which aren't? And does not *any* such criterion
risk favoring one religious perspective -- or even group of perspectives --
over the other?

-Chuck Stevens


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